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I think Ortiz fought twice in UK against bums and looked poor
He was signed by Eddie Hearn possibly to keep him away from AJ...
Hearn needs to put Ortiz in v White- Chisora etc to give him a profile in europe
Something tells me Ortiz is going to be a forgotten man soon.
In UK a fight between AJ and T Furey outweighs anything else (possible wlad 2)
JP should target Wilder and Wilder would be keen as I don't think he really wants AJ.
(05-01-2017, 11:38 AM)diehard Wrote: [ -> ]Parker can only win in the exchanges, not if he boxes him. Like you say, AJ would walk through him. Parker would have to catch him with combos.

Let's be honest though. AJ beat a 41 year old man who's in decline and looked ordinary against Jennings and Fury. And AJ almost got ko'd against him if not for Klit not being able to pull the trigger. Great victory from a guy who stepped up in competition, but let's keep this in perspective.

AJ beat an all time great. Stepping up from the level of opposition he fought to Wlad was very impressive, even if he looked rather shaky at times.
He'll get a huge confidence boost from this fight, and will be more dangerous for it.
Wilder might be the most dangerous fight out there right now for AJ. A fight between JP and Wilder might force the pressure on who Joshua will have in his near future plans if he's serious about unification. But seriously, is JP ready for these guys...? Does he need another couple of years or is he good to go..? Size is nothing when you look back on Evander and Mike Tyson. JP does need to get away from the low calibre opponents they are feeding him if he's going to lift his game IMO
True that, Sham. Parker needs to fight Cojanu and Bellew, and then see where he is in relation to AJ. Yes, Wilder/AJ is the fight I want right now.
(05-01-2017, 01:19 PM)diehard Wrote: [ -> ]True that, Sham.  Parker needs to fight Cojanu and Bellew, and then see where he is in relation to AJ.  Yes, Wilder/AJ is the fight I want right now.

Do you honestly believe Cojanu and bellew get him prepared for AJ and Wilder.
No, but it's better than where he is now. And who knows, Wilder may beat AJ. Or Fury. I agree that Ortiz is the forgotten man. And he's getting old, so they better match him soon.
If Fury comes straight back into an AJ bout what are the chances of the IBF and WBA sanctioning that fight?. IMO the only way that fight is even possible is if AJ drops the belts in which case we're left with an even bigger mess.
Couldn't believe that the WBA sanctioned the AJ/Klit fight after that mess with the tournament, interim champ, etc. Guess they saw that they were being ridiculous.
Hughie Fury retains mandatory status, next in line for Joseph Parker WBO boxing title defence

Hughie Fury mucked the Parker camp around but will still get his shot at the WBO world title.

The scenario for Joseph Parker is simple: get through his first WBO world title defence against Romanian challenger Razvan Cojanu in Auckland on Saturday, and Hughie Fury is next in line.

As much as Parker's team may want to push Fury aside, given the extensive lengths the Englishman's camp went to muck them around, the political world of boxing means that is not an option.

Duco's Australian-based matchmaker Stuart Duncan has revealed that, should Parker defeat Cojanu as expected this week, the Kiwi champion must then face Fury, with that fight likely to be in England in August/September.

Joseph Parker faces Razvan Cojanu in Auckland this weekend and if successful must take on Hughie Fury next.

Two weeks before he was due to step into the ring Fury pulled out of the scheduled title fight with Parker citing a back injury, despite proclaiming to be ready to go only days previously.

Duco Events boss David Higgins accused the Fury camp of having a broken moral compass, such were his frustrations at having to try save his show at late notice.

Dominic Breazeale was considered as a replacement but his stand and trade style - one completely different to what Parker had prepared for with Fury - was deemed too risky at such short notice.

Cojanu, Parker's sparring partner who is ranked 14th with the WBO, stepped up to fill the void.

Now it seems the Furys will get exactly what they wanted, with Hughie set to retain his mandatory status, and the fight likely to take place in their backyard.

"Hughie Fury has provided a medical document saying he has a problem with his lower back which in boxing terms means it can't be proven otherwise," Duncan said. "Whether there was an injury or not we don't know but Joe's next fight has got to be Hughie Fury. It can't be anyone else. It doesn't matter what's said.

"The WBO has said rather than Duco copping a loss they will enable a non-mandatory defence on this occasion to keep the show alive but because medical evidence is provided Joe will have to face Hughie Fury in the next outing."

WBC champion Deontay Wilder - the respected American with an impressive 38-0 record - was among those to call out Parker last week after Fury failed to show in New Zealand. But, for the immediate future at least, Wilder appears out of the equation.

"There's no point talking about a Wilder fight because the WBO won't allow it to happen. Once he has got Hughie out of the way then Joe can do what he likes."

After stumping up $4.1 million for the purse bid Duco still retain the rights to control where the Fury fight will be held. The Fury promotion in New Zealand was thought to be struggling, with major sponsors such as Burger King no longer on board, and taking it to the UK would minimise the financial risk for Duco.

It also ticks several other boxes, allowing Parker to build his brand and break into the lucrative UK market; then potentially eye a non-mandatory fight against natural cruiserweight Tony Bellew, whose stocks have never been higher following his shock victory over former champion David Haye last month.

If Anthony Joshua gets past Wladimir Klitschko in the scrap for the IBF and WBA belts on Sunday (NZT), the likelihood of staging the Fury fight in England would increase further.

"In the event Joshua wins that fight I believe it would be in the best interests of Joe to fight Hughie Fury over in the UK.

"As far as I'm concerned unless Hughie enters the ring with a chainsaw he's not going to hurt Joe. If it does go to a points decision Joe will clearly be the winner because he's got faster hand speed, he's the more aggressive fighter and he's going to have Fury on the backfoot.

"In my opinion it doesn't matter if he fights him in England and Hughie's mother and father are referee and judge, or whether he fights him in New Zealand, Joe will win that fight.

"I believe Razvan is a harder fight than Fury. I think Fury is the perfect mandatory challenger. I think we are blessed. If I was David Higgins, I'd be taking the fight to England."

Get through Cojanu, Fury and Bellew, and Parker could set up a mega fight with Joshua early next year without even entertaining the thought of facing Wilder.

Permutations change regularly in boxing, but that appears Parker's preferred pathway.

All we now know for sure is if Parker knocks over Cojanu, Fury will be next.

- Stuff
Thats assuming he's not banned for Peds.

I think Duco will be happier to have the fight in the UK. Sounds like they were struggling to sell the fight over here. Might face the same trouble over there. It sounds like Hughie has ruined his reputation a bit