(05-04-2017, 10:31 PM)U.K. Fight Fan Wrote: [ -> ] (05-04-2017, 07:45 PM)Infern0 Wrote: [ -> ]Who are those idiots giving their opinions in the stuff article?
The common theme among Wilder and Parker fans seems to be that Joshua would have been knocked out in that 5th/ 6th round by either man. My response to that would be 1) would Wilder or Parker even make it to them rounds? 2) would they have even been able to set up that shot that Wlad did to hurt Joshua? He has arguably the best 1-2 in the game. 3) would Wilder or Parker have coped with the atmosphere and pressure like Wlad? 4) I've seen wilder hurt against Molina, dropped early in his career too and Parker has gassed against Takam. They have vulnerabilities too. 5) how would Parker and wilder have done against Wlad? Parker is tailor made for Wlad imo. 6) it's all hypothetical. But what is real is when Parker and wilder face Joshua he will have the experience of going through something like that against an opponent like that, they don't.
This isn't to say Joshua would beat either with ease but those saying Wilder and Parker would have stopped him need to give their head a wobble.
Agree entirely.
To be honest i don't think Wilder or Parker makes it to the 5th/6th against KLITSCHKO let alone AJ.
time for Wilder and Parker to step up and fight each other now, the guy who comes through that one has an argument until then they need to sit down and shut up because Joshua has picked up the torch and he's a distance in front of both now.
If Parker and Wilder face off, and the winner gets obliterated vs Joshua, and if Klitschko retires. Who else apart from Fury could challenge Joshua? Ortiz is getting on and Pulev apparently looked woeful last time out. Would be a shame if Joshua reaches his prime age of 29,30 and there's no threats left. The only other person I could think that would make for an interesting match up would be if Usyk moved up in a couple of years to fight him.
Pulev is average. Ortiz has passed his prime now imo. Like you said, Fury would be the one. Fully fit he's a horrible fight for anyone because no other heavyweight boxes like he does. Add to that, he's 6'9. Usyk would be interesting. His boxing ability is awesome, but at 6'3 and not a whole load of power I question whether he could beat the big guys. Plus he's already about 30 and I think he wants to unify cruiserweight. By the time he's done that then god knows what age he'll be - he could have slowed right down.
There are some big potential fights for AJ, but your guess is as good as mine to how competitive they would be. Depends on how much these guys improve: H.Fury, Jarrell Miller and D.Whyte rematch.
Who knows, can Junior Fa get to that level?
I haven't got super in-depth knowledge of HW prospects from around the world but I know in the UK there are some good ones that could face AJ in the future. Joe Joyce who won silver at the Olympics is turning pro this year. He's 31 so he will be moving fast. Regular sparring partner for AJ. He's 6'6 too. Then there's Frazer Clarke who will turn pro at some point, he's 25, 6'5 and ranked 4th in the world boxing series I think. Then the young guns, Nathan Gorman who is only 20, 9-0 trained by Ricky Hatton. Really good skills but only 6'3. The guy who Im predicting to take the torch off AJ when he is coming to the end is Daniel Dubois. 19 years old, 6'5, 2-0 - looks very promising. Beat the guy who shared the commonwealth bronze medal with Junior Fa in only his second pro fight.
Long way off all that though lol.
So some promising young heavies coming out of UK. Junior Fa has a way to go before he'll be a threat to the top 10; if ever. His last outing was against a guy called Daniel Tai for the NZ title. Tai was 22-9 at the time and is under 6". Junior looked pretty one dimensional in that fight and only won by MD. He's too tentative at the moment and afraid to really let rip with some good combinations. Needs to get more of an arsenal than simply jabbing and the occasional straight right and the odd body shot. Junior looks great when he's a little more aggressive. He's fighting again this month. Hopefully he ends the year out with a Fred Kassi level opponent to gauge where he's at.
(05-05-2017, 09:25 AM)Justapakeha Wrote: [ -> ]So some promising young heavies coming out of UK. Junior Fa has a way to go before he'll be a threat to the top 10; if ever. His last outing was against a guy called Daniel Tai for the NZ title. Tai was 22-9 at the time and is under 6". Junior looked pretty one dimensional in that fight and only won by MD. He's too tentative at the moment and afraid to really let rip with some good combinations. Needs to get more of an arsenal than simply jabbing and the occasional straight right and the odd body shot. Junior looks great when he's a little more aggressive. He's fighting again this month. Hopefully he ends the year out with a Fred Kassi level opponent to gauge where he's at.
Jnr Fa is fighting Jnr Pati out of DTs gym this month, I'm not sure how Pati has advanced in the last year or so but he is short and strong if he catches you but Fa will just need to keep him at range and pop him with long shots and possibly tie up. Pati has short strong legs but is not a good mover so Fa should have no trouble avoiding avoiding him centre ring. A possible mismatch.
(05-05-2017, 04:21 AM)Infern0 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-04-2017, 10:31 PM)U.K. Fight Fan Wrote: [ -> ] (05-04-2017, 07:45 PM)Infern0 Wrote: [ -> ]Who are those idiots giving their opinions in the stuff article?
The common theme among Wilder and Parker fans seems to be that Joshua would have been knocked out in that 5th/ 6th round by either man. My response to that would be 1) would Wilder or Parker even make it to them rounds? 2) would they have even been able to set up that shot that Wlad did to hurt Joshua? He has arguably the best 1-2 in the game. 3) would Wilder or Parker have coped with the atmosphere and pressure like Wlad? 4) I've seen wilder hurt against Molina, dropped early in his career too and Parker has gassed against Takam. They have vulnerabilities too. 5) how would Parker and wilder have done against Wlad? Parker is tailor made for Wlad imo. 6) it's all hypothetical. But what is real is when Parker and wilder face Joshua he will have the experience of going through something like that against an opponent like that, they don't.
This isn't to say Joshua would beat either with ease but those saying Wilder and Parker would have stopped him need to give their head a wobble.
Agree entirely.
To be honest i don't think Wilder or Parker makes it to the 5th/6th against KLITSCHKO let alone AJ.
time for Wilder and Parker to step up and fight each other now, the guy who comes through that one has an argument until then they need to sit down and shut up because Joshua has picked up the torch and he's a distance in front of both now.
Yep, Parker would have to be in Klit's position. That's the big question. Well done on your analysis.
Fa carrying an injury against Tai I believe, he did enough for the win. Agree that Fa looks better when he's going for the kill- fight on the wilder card showed that
(05-05-2017, 10:15 AM)shamrock Wrote: [ -> ] (05-05-2017, 09:25 AM)Justapakeha Wrote: [ -> ]So some promising youngies coming out of UK. Junior Fa has a way to go before he'll be a threat to the top 10; if ever. His last outing was against a guy called Daniel Tai for the NZ title. Tai was 22-9 at the time and is under 6". Junior looked pretty one dimensional in that fight and only won by MD. He's too tentative at the moment and afraid to really let rip with some good combinations. Needs to get more of an arsenal than simply jabbing and the occasional straight right and the odd body shot. Junior looks great when he's a little more aggressive. He's fighting again this month. Hopefully he ends the year out with a Fred Kassi level opponent to gauge where he's at.
Jnr Fa is fighting Jnr Pati out of DTs gym this month, I'm not sure how Pati has advanced in the last year or so but he is short and strong if he catches you but Fa will just need to keep him at range and pop him with long shots and possibly tie up. Pati has short strong legs but is not a good mover so Fa should have no trouble avoiding avoiding him centre ring. A possible mismatch.
Don't see the point in fighting Junior Pati again, unless he demolishes him and shows us how hes improved. Maybe I jumped the gun when I thought hed be ready for a Fred Kassi or Kevin Johnson this yr.