(02-11-2017, 01:36 PM)Infern0 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-11-2017, 01:24 PM)shamrock Wrote: [ -> ]Yes die you are a real Parker fan boy. You give Parker a B+ for power and Wilder beast a A- wtf? Parkers power doesn't rate too much when he faces better opposition have noticed. Wilder drops em when he connects, and an F for chin while Jo gets B+.....absurd.!
It was me who gave those scores Sham.
I cant give wilder any higher than an A- when glass jaws like szpilka are soaking up rounds of punishment before the KO, an A in my opinion is hurts you with every punch.
As for parker, i think hes got to be a B, he doesnt look to have ko power at top level but has fought durable opponents and he hits hard enough to hurt you if you dont have an elite chin.
As far as chin, wilder was knocked down and on queer street from a 12% ko ratio journeyman, smahed to bits by russian cruiserweights in the amateurs and wobbled by szpilka, molina and duhaupas. He hasnt been hit clean yet in the pros but when he is i expect thatll be it for him.
Parker gets hit loads but holds up fairly well (althpugh the guys hitting him none are big punchers)
Admittedly those ratings might move up or down depending on form.
Fan boy? Ha, ha, ha. You callin' Infern0 a fan boy? You gotta learn how to play the ball and not the man! Sham got the wrong fella'. Fan boy? Sham, go take your medicine like a man. Admit your mistake. Come on Sham. Come down from your mansion in those Hamilton suburbs and admit it. Ha, ha, ha. Apologies accepted.
(02-11-2017, 02:12 PM)NakiFan Wrote: [ -> ]Parker gets skip punched loads. Very really they are flush punches landing on him. Slow down the Takam and Ruiz footage and you'll see his quick last second head movement nullifying the punch.
How would you grade parkers chin?
Considering he has reportedly never been dropped in Amatuer or even slightly wobbled in the pros...at this point in time I would have him a B+. If he gets to test it against a top puncher like AJ or Wilder and has no issue dealing with their power. It'll be an A
(02-11-2017, 01:36 PM)Infern0 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-11-2017, 01:24 PM)shamrock Wrote: [ -> ]Yes die you are a real Parker fan boy. You give Parker a B+ for power and Wilder beast a A- wtf? Parkers power doesn't rate too much when he faces better opposition have noticed. Wilder drops em when he connects, and an F for chin while Jo gets B+.....absurd.!
It was me who gave those scores Sham.
I cant give wilder any higher than an A- when glass jaws like szpilka are soaking up rounds of punishment before the KO, an A in my opinion is hurts you with every punch.
As for parker, i think hes got to be a B, he doesnt look to have ko power at top level but has fought durable opponents and he hits hard enough to hurt you if you dont have an elite chin.
As far as chin, wilder was knocked down and on queer street from a 12% ko ratio journeyman, smahed to bits by russian cruiserweights in the amateurs and wobbled by szpilka, molina and duhaupas. He hasnt been hit clean yet in the pros but when he is i expect thatll be it for him.
Parker gets hit loads but holds up fairly well (althpugh the guys hitting him none are big punchers)
Admittedly those ratings might move up or down depending on form.
Well what do I know mate? And my eyesight is suspect to be sure. Fell off a ladder at home and still recovering.. still feel Wilder is too strong for Joseph. As well as wilder is open and wild at times i agree I consider Jo has seemedto fall asleep at times and is vulnerable to a big hitter. In saying that I think AJ KOs them both.
Hope you are ok, Sham. You know I was just teasing you. Back to boxing: I agree with your assessment, but I don't think AJ will fight either one of them because your other friend, Klit, will KO him.
Well cheers die, I was only teasing mentioning AJ. I'm hoping Klit will win that one, plenty of time for AJ to KO the college freshman JP. But I don't think Jo can tame the wild man deontay if he gets past Fury lol
Only reason I dont want a klitschko win is that its time for a new era. Wladamor had his decade of dominence, i dont like it when guys beat their succesors on the way out. Lewis did it to vitali and it killed the heavyweight division dead for years.
(02-11-2017, 04:00 PM)shamrock Wrote: [ -> ] (02-11-2017, 01:36 PM)Infern0 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-11-2017, 01:24 PM)shamrock Wrote: [ -> ]Yes die you are a real Parker fan boy. You give Parker a B+ for power and Wilder beast a A- wtf? Parkers power doesn't rate too much when he faces better opposition have noticed. Wilder drops em when he connects, and an F for chin while Jo gets B+.....absurd.!
It was me who gave those scores Sham.
I cant give wilder any higher than an A- when glass jaws like szpilka are soaking up rounds of punishment before the KO, an A in my opinion is hurts you with every punch.
As for parker, i think hes got to be a B, he doesnt look to have ko power at top level but has fought durable opponents and he hits hard enough to hurt you if you dont have an elite chin.
As far as chin, wilder was knocked down and on queer street from a 12% ko ratio journeyman, smahed to bits by russian cruiserweights in the amateurs and wobbled by szpilka, molina and duhaupas. He hasnt been hit clean yet in the pros but when he is i expect thatll be it for him.
Parker gets hit loads but holds up fairly well (althpugh the guys hitting him none are big punchers)
Admittedly those ratings might move up or down depending on form.
Well what do I know mate? And my eyesight is suspect to be sure. Fell off a ladder at home and still recovering.. still feel Wilder is too strong for Joseph. As well as wilder is open and wild at times i agree I consider Jo has seemedto fall asleep at times and is vulnerable to a big hitter. In saying that I think AJ KOs them both.
(02-11-2017, 05:29 PM)Infern0 Wrote: [ -> ]Only reason I dont want a klitschko win is that its time for a new era. Wladamor had his decade of dominence, i dont like it when guys beat their succesors on the way out. Lewis did it to vitali and it killed the heavyweight division dead for years.
Yes, if Klit wins we start all over. Unless Klit retires afterwards.
Hughie Fury: After I Beat Parker, He'll Probably Win Another Title
Heavyweight contender Hughie Fury has come out in praise of his upcoming opponent Joseph Parker, but believes he has what it takes to defeat the unbeaten WBO title holder.
Fury, 22, has been lined up as the first mandatory challenger of Parker's WBO belt, with the cousin of former heavyweight champion Tyson Fury stating that he doesn't care where fight takes place.
"It doesn't matter to me if it's anywhere, in the desert, in the car park, I'm happy to fight. I'm not bothered, long as title on line and I'm bringing it back," Fury told BoxNation. "I've travelled all around world. I had my first pro fight in Canada, then New York, I've fought in Romania. I've been everywhere so it doesn't matter to me where the fight is going to be."
Fury hasn't fought since last April's technical decision win over Fred Kassi, and boasts a record of 20 wins and 10 knockouts in his professional run, similar to Parker, who is unbeaten after 22 fights and has 18 knockouts.
Parker struggled a little to win a twelve round majority decision over Andy Ruiz in December to capture the world title. Fury still sees him as one of the best out there.
"I rate Parker as one of the best heavyweights out there at the minute, it's going to be a cracking fight but I believe I am the best heavyweight out there and I'm going to prove that.
"It doesn't matter what he brings, whatever it is I have an answer for it. At the end of the day I'm ready and prepared."
"[Parker is] a good young talent and I believe when I beat him he'll probably come back and get another title but, trust me, I'm bringing that title back."
Parker's promoters Duco Events are still ratifying the logistics of the fight between the two, however it is believed that the bout will take place in Auckland in April.