I have been having a re think- at the time watching the fight I was bitterly disappointed at the performance of Joe - the lack of ideas by him and his team to work out Raz.. etc
Now I willing to give Joe (not his team) a break as Raz not wanting to do anything but clown made the fight a joke not Joe.
I still think he is a long way off AJ level and prob never will reach that but will be cool to see how he goes with the ones under AJ and how long he can hold the belt.
Win lose or draw I will support him.
I was a big Tua fan back in the day but was turned off him by his lack of discipline and dedication to training and how he wasted his talent in the finish so I don't have those concerns with JP
I agree. In defense of Joe, what was he supposed to do? Cojanu covered up most of the fight, and threw nothing. Joe outpunched him 5 to 1. And he won 11 of 12 rounds. And as Sham will tell you, it's hard punching up, and takes a lot out of you. Remember Joey Wilson, Sham?
Still, as champ, his job was to find a way to break him down. Dennis did it with a KO. I didn't like Joe's physique, nor his speed in that fight.
Joseph Parker - five things we learned video
It wasn't a vintage Joseph Parker performance and not the statement send-off he wanted as he gets set to takes his talents to bigger markets offshore.
But, importantly, he still has his WBO world heavyweight belt and his unanimous points victory over Razvan Cojanu in Manukau provided some valuaable insights as he starts to pack his bags for a likely fight in Britain.
Here are five things we learned from Parker's 23rd consecutive victory.
1 – He has got a good chin
After 23 fights Parker is yet to be put on the canvas and that's a badge of honour, especially in the heavyweight division where the big bangers operate. The big Cojanu connected with a couple of decent shots and, as in previous fights, when Parker gets clubbed he gets angry rather than defensive. It enrages him into action. Heavier hitters await, but a granite jaw is a massive asset.
2 – He has got increasing discipline
Parker hasn't always followed the script laid out for him by Kevin Barry, often to the trainer's frustration. But he's getting better and better at enacting fight plans. The Cojanu fight was a case in point. When Parker couldn't find a knockout over the first half of the fight but complied a mountain of points in his favour, he was clever enough to let the bout play out and accept the decision. Apart from a brief explosion in the last round when a desperate Cojanu finally went on the attack, Parker saw the sense in protecting the precious WBO belt for bigger things.
3 – The power question mark still nags
Having won 18 of 23 fights by stoppages for a 78 per cent knockout ratio is an impressive statistic on any fighter's record. But the inability to deliver statement blows in some of his bigger fights – he has been forced to go the distance in three of his last five fights – has been frustrating. Sore shoulders and elbows are a fighter's lot. But Parker has been on such a freight train ride over the past four years with 19 fights squeezed in, the worry is that the workload is catching up just when it matters most. Champions get to pick and choose their fights and Anthony Joshua's handlers have signalled he might only fight twice a year now. Rest will be a key ingredient for Parker from here too.
4 – He's got a big gas tank
Forget any physical niggles, Parker's motor purrs and he's got a heart to match it. He's now got 111 rounds under his belt and 36 of those have come under genuine championship situations in the eliminator against Carlos Takam, the rugged battle with Andy Ruiz and now the slog against Cojanu. Experience is a vital commodity as he heads forward and so is the reassurance of knowing he can comfortably go the distance. In all of those 12 rounders Parker has looked strong in the final stages and in close fights that's the time to shine. He seems to have found a comfortable fighting weight around 111kg and has maintained that amidst some obvious upper body development. He's not the huge specimen that his main opponents in trying to unify the division are, but he doesn't lack the endurance or energy to remain a force.
5 – He's outgrown the local market
Yes, it really is time to leave New Zealand. The sloppy Manukau promotion didn't reflect the status of the occasion, his first defence of a genuine world title. It's been a fun ride watching Parker's rapid progress amidst the comforts of home. But the really big fights beckon and they don't appear financially viable here considering what can be made offshore. The time in the limelight can be fleeting for a boxer. Parker has to earn his fortune while he can. He has to turn his international doubters into believers and that has to happen on bigger stages against bigger names.
- Stuff
Perhaps there will be lower ppv charges once away from the clutches of duco
(05-08-2017, 05:07 PM)diehard Wrote: [ -> ]I agree. In defense of Joe, what was he supposed to do? Cojanu covered up most of the fight, and threw nothing. Joe outpunched him 5 to 1. And he won 11 of 12 rounds. And as Sham will tell you, it's hard punching up, and takes a lot out of you. Remember Joey Wilson, Sham?
Still, as champ, his job was to find a way to break him down. Dennis did it with a KO. I didn't like Joe's physique, nor his speed in that fight.
I think Parker should have taken the fight to him. He should have fought on the inside.
Maybe KB thought it was too risky, being a heavyweight title defence and all, but cmon, Joe needs the experience.
(05-08-2017, 05:20 PM)Msreef Wrote: [ -> ] (05-08-2017, 05:07 PM)diehard Wrote: [ -> ]I agree. In defense of Joe, what was he supposed to do? Cojanu covered up most of the fight, and threw nothing. Joe outpunched him 5 to 1. And he won 11 of 12 rounds. And as Sham will tell you, it's hard punching up, and takes a lot out of you. Remember Joey Wilson, Sham?
Still, as champ, his job was to find a way to break him down. Dennis did it with a KO. I didn't like Joe's physique, nor his speed in that fight.
I think Parker should have taken the fight to him. He should have fought on the inside.
Maybe KB thought it was too risky, being a heavyweight title defence and all, but cmon, Joe needs the experience.
I don't think Kevin Barry knows how to coach Joe to fight on the inside.
Probably because as a fighter KB never learned how to infight, why would he , he was a lanky amateur. His coaches would have told him don't fight on the inside , tie up then go back to the outside and jab.
Two things I thought he never taught Tua were bridging the gap as the smaller man , and inside game. They were tools KB never had to develop in himself when he was a fighter.
It meant Tua was more one dimensional .
Imagine if Tua had those strings to his bow , he would have been unstoppable.
I don't blame KB for Tua's limitations as Tua let himself be a lazy trainer and had little focus personally
JP is a willing student with a A1 attitude who would learn and implement so maybe bringing in other coaches is the key
Agree 100% about Tua. KB had the hardest job in all of boxing getting him into shape. And, Tua would often not fight until he knocked the guy out. Which was not a problem until he faced LL, and then Barrett and Ustinov at the end of his career.
With JP, KB is too close to him, and he needs a fresh approach. He's not progressing.
What a Bell end. The only fight this guy deserves is the Haye rematch. Hopefully no one else is silly enough to give this guy the cash out fight he's looking for. Parker needs Hughie next as the mandatory or unification with Joshua/wilder.