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Wilder boxed pretty intelligently and with patience V strivene so he can when needed.

(01-12-2017, 02:34 PM)bart Wrote: [ -> ]Wilder boxed pretty intelligently and with patience V strivene so he can when needed.

But Stiverne was a 40 year old dehydrated fat man.

I think Joe can cover ground a bit quicker to be honest

Stiverne threw 327 punches in that fight....TOTAL.
Duhaupas threw 332 punches TOTAL in a little over 11 rounds....
Molina threw 49 punches TOTAL in a little over 9 rounds...
Arreola threw 52 punches TOTAL in a little over 8 rounds...

So in 50 rounds of boxing, Wilder has had to only defend against 15.2 punches per round, or simply 5 shots per minute, or 1 punch per 12 seconds.

There is NO FRICKN way that he will have that relaxation with Parker coming at him. This will create panic, and errors, and a KO.

(01-12-2017, 03:53 PM)NakiFan Wrote: [ -> ]Stiverne threw 327 punches in that fight....TOTAL.
Duhaupas threw 332 punches TOTAL in a little over 11 rounds....
Molina threw 49 punches TOTAL in a little over 9 rounds...
Arreola threw 52 punches TOTAL in a little over 8 rounds...

So in 50 rounds of boxing, Wilder has had to only defend against 15.2 punches per round, or simply 5 shots per minute, or 1 punch per 12 seconds.

There is NO FRICKN way that he will have that relaxation with Parker coming at him. This will create panic, and errors, and a KO.

Brings up the issue: why do opponents throw so few punches at Wilder? The guys you mentioned, while not world beaters, are good solid fighters. Parker doesn't throw a lot of punches himself, but he strings together combos, which is where I rate his chances against Wilder.

Couple more build up fights for Parker before wilder. I favor parker against the taller wilder and I'm guessing that parker has a better chin then all but Stiverne maybe.

(01-12-2017, 04:11 PM)diehard Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-12-2017, 03:53 PM)NakiFan Wrote: [ -> ]Stiverne threw 327 punches in that fight....TOTAL.
Duhaupas threw 332 punches TOTAL in a little over 11 rounds....
Molina threw 49 punches TOTAL in a little over 9 rounds...
Arreola threw 52 punches TOTAL in a little over 8 rounds...

So in 50 rounds of boxing, Wilder has had to only defend against 15.2 punches per round, or simply 5 shots per minute, or 1 punch per 12 seconds.

There is NO FRICKN way that he will have that relaxation with Parker coming at him. This will create panic, and errors, and a KO.

Brings up the issue: why do opponents throw so few punches at Wilder?  The guys you mentioned, while not world beaters, are good solid fighters.  Parker doesn't throw a lot of punches himself, but he strings together combos, which is where I rate his chances against Wilder.

Because it's not that easy throwing against a taller fighter. Klit jabbed many into submission, but Fury was tall and sharp.
Fury's extremely boring, but very impressive jab-to-death efforts against Chisora and Hammer will be shown by history to be better than they looked.
Wilder is suspect, but has a very dangerous right, and had a pretty good jab against Stiverne when he needed it.
This is the age of the giant.
Parker will have to be special to get another belt

(01-12-2017, 11:17 AM)Infern0 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-12-2017, 02:51 AM)U.K. Fight Fan Wrote: [ -> ]Wilder beats Parker right now. 7 inch reach and 3 inch height advantages.  Even though I think both have questionable footwork I'd say Wilder has the quicker feet. Definitely the more athletic.  I don't know how Parker gets close to Wilder. Parkers weaknesses play right into Wilder imo. Slow feet, limited head movement and poor defence plus the physical disadvantages.  Parker has better hand speed and punch technique/variety but how does he get close enough to land while avoiding Wilder long punches.  I'd give Wilder the power edge too.

I'd give wilder more than just an edge in power.

But parker could walk him down, a shot chris areolla did it, I can't think of a fighter other than Stiverne that had problems getting close to wilder. It's just a question of what they do when they get there.

I only give Wilder the edge in power because I believe power is relative to where you are and what type of fight it is. Wilder has the outside power but Parker has the power on the inside. I just think Wilders outside edges Parkers inside. If it turns into a phone booth fight then Wilder has zero power.
I can't recall Arreola having a lot of success. Wilder had also broke his hand and tore a muscle in his arm and still made it look pretty easy. Didn't Chris quit on his stool?
I'd disagree that his opponents have had no problems getting on the inside of Wilder. Duhaupas fought with his hands planted against his head and took horrendous punishment for limited bodywork success and eventually got beaten to a stand still. Molina had one good round where he caught Wilder. That happened in the centre of the ring, which suggests more of a lapse from Wilder rather than Molina walking him down. As you said, Stiverne didn't do anything. Mentioned Arreola previously.
Parkers dimensions are very similar to Wilders last few opponents. So what does Parker do differently to allow him to get closer and for longer than Wilders previous opposition? I don't think he's any faster on his feet. Seems quite heavy legged. Head movement? I can't remember Parker bobbing and weaving during his career so far. I don't know if he's capable of cutting the ring off effectively, I don't think he's needed to so far. No question Parker is a lot better in his punching than Wilders past opponents but is he better at getting to a position to use that - I don't think so.
Other things to bear in mind - Duhaupas, Molina and Stiverne all have longer reaches than Parker. Arreola has the same as Parker.
Parker keeps his left hand really low. Wilders money punch is the straight right.

Parker vs Hughie Close:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/88375129/top-rank-boss-bob-arum-says-a-joseph-parker-versus-hughie-fury-world-title-fight-is-close

It'll be a good move to get hughie over here. I have a feeling it's another close fight on the cards

Parker badly needs a KO win.

He is not gaining many overseas fans with his wins lately. He should walk right through Hughie.