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  tua wants back in
Posted by: Calikiwi - 11-22-2014, 09:48 AM - Forum: NZBoxChat - Replies (18)

so dave now says he'll fight the winner of kali/cameron next year. its tough to stay out of the spotlight. deja vu x 10.

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  Looks like its here to stay.
Posted by: craigyid14 - 11-21-2014, 05:27 PM - Forum: NZBoxChat - No Replies

The super 8 format.
A light heavy one sounds good, Nik the Greek,Sam Rapira, Reece papuni and that's just from Nz and off the top of my head. Trent Broadhurst, Damien Hooper from Aussie. Hoopers conquerer Powdill. Could be real good.

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  Reece Papuni
Posted by: craigyid14 - 11-21-2014, 10:00 AM - Forum: NZBoxChat - Replies (11)

Is he the real deal? Stopped Sam Rapira last time out, is 7-0(5 early) and has Aussie veteran Joel 'two guns' Casey in a few weeks in Christchurch. How far can he go?

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  super 8 draw
Posted by: craigyid14 - 11-21-2014, 09:46 AM - Forum: NZBoxChat - Replies (2)

Is today at 11.30, City gym in Kingsland. Its the weigh in for all the fighters as well, anyone attending?

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  Who you got Shane or Kali
Posted by: infini_IV - 11-20-2014, 09:38 PM - Forum: NZBoxChat - Replies (5)

Who you got to take this out and how

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  Whatever happened to
Posted by: diehard - 11-20-2014, 10:11 AM - Forum: NZBoxChat - Replies (18)

Got any candidates?

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  Duco Boxing
Posted by: diehard - 11-20-2014, 10:10 AM - Forum: NZBoxChat - Replies (15)

Chris Martin--Boxing needs Sky Arena and Duco to get the necessary profile and exposure for our talent...Its been a long hard road for trainers like me trying to get things rolling...I welcomed the big promoters...hope it keeps growing...good to be back here...been on a journey of self discovery so to speak..hope all are well..

Diehard--Big promoters equal big fighting events equal a windfall for everyone. Trainers get more jobs, fighters fight better fighters at bigger events, and the pundits get to watch exciting fights. Hopefully, everyone takes a step up. And $$$.

In the past, it would be Tua or Cameron and little else. Bring on the big promoters. But keep a few smaller ones for local events.

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  David Tua fights on YouTube
Posted by: diehard - 11-20-2014, 10:07 AM - Forum: NZBoxChat - Replies (3)


Former Contender Gary Bell against the Ropes

By ES Boxing | October 26, 2014 | Leave a comment

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New York, NY (October 26, 2014) – In his prime, Gary “Bring Da Pain” Bell was a noteworthy heavyweight. As an amateur, the Brooklyn native captured three New York Golden Gloves championships and had his sights set on a world title in the paid ranks.

In 1996, world champion and future hall of famer Evander Holyfield enlisted the ultra-aggressive Bell as a sparring partner leading up to his first bout against Mike Tyson. Throughout camp, Bell did his best to mimic Iron Mike and reportedly got the best of Holyfield during some of their sparring sessions. Impressed with Bell’s ability, Holyfield signed on to become his manager. The two sparred again for Holyfield’s rematch with Tyson. This time, Holyfield reportedly got the better of Bell.

The fearless Bell also spent time sparring with champion Lennox Lewis and the Tyson-esque David Tua, a rough and heavy hitting Samoan star that knocked out almost every fighter he faced. Ironically, Tua would have a major role in Bell’s future as a boxer.

In 1999, the two met for the USBA title. A victory for Bell would mean he’d receive a world ranking and be on the shortlist as a potential opponent for the heavyweight division’s elite. Unfortunately, he was on the wrong side of a first round knockout. A few bouts later, Tua made a significant amount of money to fight Lennox Lewis for the world title and went onto have a successful career. Bell was never the same, fighting just four more times and ending his career with a second round knockout loss. Between countless rounds of sparring with the Holyfield’s and Tua’s of the world and 28 professional fights, Bell took a tremendous amount of punishment.

Shortly after his career ended in 2002, Bell showed the scary effects that boxing can have on a former fighter. Between memory loss, poor balance, slurred speech and a lack of focus, his associate degrees in both medical billing and AutoCAD weren’t enough to help him find a steady 9 to 5 job. With countless job interviews leading him nowhere, the desperate Bell committed multiple street crimes for money and is facing jail time for grand larceny and burglary.

Due to his condition and instability, Bell was seen on multiple occasions by forensic psychologist Marc Janoson. He ran multiple tests on Bell, showing an impaired thought process and various other personality flaws. His time with Bell led to diagnoses of Pugilistic Dementia, Bipolar I Disorder and Bipolar II Disorder. Dr. Janoson recommended multiple neurological evaluations and medicines that could potentially rehabilitate Bell.

Still, Bell is facing multiple years in prison instead of a mental institution where he’d be served best.

“Gary Bell is a very sick man,” said Mitchell Rose, who is assisting with getting Bell the proper help. “He’s looking at multiple years in prison and while it’s a fitting penalty for most, prison isn’t what he needs. Gary’s boxing career caused severe mental and physical damage that could only be helped if he’s in an institution where he’s given the proper medication. There have been many instances where mentally incompetent suspects in criminal cases were put into the proper institutions and not standard prisons because that is the proper way to rehabilitate them. We’re going to continue fighting for Gary to get the help he needs and not just throw him into a prison where he’ll never have the chance to become a functioning member of society upon his release.”

To assist with Bell’s legal bills and assist him in getting the proper help, fans can donate via Paypal to garybellfund@gmail.com.

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  Upcoming Fights
Posted by: diehard - 11-20-2014, 10:06 AM - Forum: NZBoxChat - Replies (4)

Szpilka defeats Adamek on “Night of Upsets” in Krakow, Poland

By Przemek Garczarczyk at ringside

In a heavyweight grudge match, +175 underdog Artur “The Pin” Szpilka (17-1, 12 KOs) scored a ten round unanimous decision over former two division world champion Tomasz Adamek (49-4, 29 KOs) in front of 17,000+ at the Krakow Arena in Krakow, Poland. The 25-year-old Szpilka was a little quicker and and energetic than the 37-year-old Adamek. Adamek had his best round in round eight, but Szpilka finished well to win by scores of 94-90??, 98-92, 96-94. After the fight, Adamek told Polish TV “I think this is over for me.”

In his first bout following a two year incarceration, formerly world rated light heavyweight Dawid Kostecki (39-2, 25 KOs) was surprisingly upset by Andrzej Soldra (11-1-1, 5 KOs) in an eight round slugfest. Kostecki dropped Soldra in round two, but slowed down later in the bout. Scores were 76-75, 77-75, 77-75, all for Soldra.

In another upset, previously unbeaten Maciej Sulecki (19-0, 4 KOs) knocked out former middleweight title challenger Grzegorz Proksa (29-4, 21 KOs) in round seven. A Sulecki right hand put Proksa down face first.

In a clash between unbeaten jr welterweights, Michal Syrowatka (11-0, 3 KOs) annihilated Michal Chudecki (10-1-1, 3 KOs) in round one. This was another mild upset.

What has been of Adamek? he was a promising boxer not long ago....
Be interesting to know if Bloodworth is still with him.

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  Professional Boxing in NZ
Posted by: diehard - 11-20-2014, 10:04 AM - Forum: NZBoxChat - Replies (1150)

Angove: Code-hoppers deserve our respect


CODE-HOPPERS: Anthony Mundine, Sonny Bill Williams and Quade Cooper have all tried their hand at boxing.

OPINION: Code-hoppers like Sonny Bill Williams and Anthony Mundine draw the ire of the sporting community not because they have committed a great sacrilege against their beloved code, but because they have the talent and courage to break the mould.

When a successful athlete from one code shifts to another, there is a constant wail from blinkered wowsers, either that they've been betrayed or they are stealing the limelight from the hard grafters, those who have committed years of their life to a given sport.

But I have to ask: would those grafters ever have actually appeared on the big stage in the first place? Talent and ability to win will trump admirable but ultimately unspectacular grafters every time.

It may not be fair, but professional sport doesn't give out merit badges for participation.

We are in the midst of a fortnight where code-hoppers are receiving plenty of coverage so it seems apt to explore the core of why these super athletes are both loved and reviled in the same breath.

The divisive Anthony Mundine faces his final roll of the dice against Sergey Rabchenko in Brisbane on Wednesday, but love him or hate him, you can't deny he has always been a special athlete.

Just over a year after turning professional with no amateur background, "Choc" fought for a world title against a dominant, undefeated champion in his 11th fight.

Sven Ottke may have knocked him out, but "the man" went on to win the WBA super-middleweight and light-middleweight crowns, and the IBO middleweight strap, beating the likes of Antwun Echols, Danny Green, Sam Soliman and Bronco McKart on the way. You can't put together a record like that without x-factor in your make-up.

New Zealand's own Monty Betham - world junior karate champion, national rugby league captain and professional boxer, though not scaling the same heights as Mundine - also bears the same unwavering sense of self belief which saw him agree to fight Shane Cameron (a world class 29-fight veteran at the time) in just his sixth bout. Forgetting for a moment the 16oz. gloves and two-minute rounds, Betham's ability to survive and execute a well-constructed game plan after taking this bout on just two weeks notice was nothing short of impressive.

Sonny Bill Williams, of course, is the ultimate code-hopper, shifting from league to rugby to boxing, then back to rugby via league again. He's currently touring with the All Blacks as he tries to secure a place in the world cup squad, but after that, don't be surprised to see SBW back in the boxing ring.

No doubt he does have a padded record, but no more so than most 10-0 fighters looking to clamber over a few corpses and old men on the way up the food chain.

People complain about the exorbitant PPV charge to watch Sonny Bill fight, but we are an obsessed fan base in a country which would turn up to watch an All Black fart and have only ourselves to blame for succumbing to the undoubted star factor.
And, to be fair that complaint should really be directed at the constant dubiousness of matchmaking on undercards he appears on across the Tasman (not New Zealand where there is far better control), but that is a story for another day.

The truth is, in his last bout, for eight and half rounds of 10 against Francois Botha, he boxed well against an experienced and wily veteran. For a part timer, he was succeeding where really he had no right to do so. Surely this can only be a testament to his freakish athleticism and mental capacity to execute a game plan in the trenches. It is however a pity we haven't yet seen the result of him committing to the sport full time.

The addition of world-class kickboxing phenomenon, Israel Adesanya, to the upcoming SUPER 8 Last Man Standing tournament as the New Zealand wild card has similarly created huge consternation amongst the local boxing community, who felt the place should have gone to a committed local boxing tradesman. But lets face facts, this kid is a once in a generation fighter with a 42-win (22 KOs), 2-loss professional fight record at the highest level, a record only David Tua can match in terms of credibility.

Yes, the sports have different ranges, which the 25-year-old will need to adapt to, but take away the kicking and you are left with ... boxing. Last time I checked, the punches used are exactly the same.

What's more, the three-time kickboxing eight-man winner has plenty of experience in the three-round format, and the preternatural ability and confidence to pull it off. I'd go further and suggest there are several outspoken people in the boxing community who may have to quaff a few sour grapes come November 22nd.

Mohammed Ali once said, "He who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life." I have to wonder if the reason these special athletes or "code-hoppers" garner so many haters is simply jealously.

Most of us don't have the talent, confidence or imagination to do what these special athletes can, and there is a small part of our psyche that hates that fact.

- Stuff

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