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why was Frans Botha there?
If Parker loses his belt to Hughie expect a FURYIous reaction back here, this promotion feels like a slow motion car wreck, Im hoping Joe can knock Fury out and put himself in the mix but even then he needs to get rid of Duco and Barry to rech that next level
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So they were worried about Terry O'Connor as a ref... now he gets to have a scorecard (just like Adeliade)
He can now still have a major impact on the fight.
A KO is needed
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(09-20-2017, 08:55 AM)Ibeabuchi Wrote: why was Frans Botha there?
If Parker loses his belt to Hughie expect a FURYIous reaction back here, this promotion feels like a slow motion car wreck, Im hoping Joe can knock Fury out and put himself in the mix but even then he needs to get rid of Duco and Barry to rech that next level
Botha is in the UK doing a promotion of some sort. I assume he was out with Higgins having beers before the conference.
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that was very staged and highly embarassing.
Higgins looked like the drunk girls on a saturday night trying to talk shit, then they get put in their place and stand there and ignore the world.
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(08-23-2017, 12:57 PM)diehard Wrote: Joseph Parker trainer Kevin Barry: Hughie Fury 'was never going to come to NZ'
Kevin Barry has rubbed a bit of salt into the long and heated buildup to Joseph parker's WBO world heavyweight title defence against Hughie Fury.
Kevin Barry has opened an old wound, claiming Hughie Fury was never ready to fight in New Zealand and had regularly ducked Joseph Parker.
Fury, the mandatory challenger to Parker's WBO world heavyweight belt, controversially pulled out of a May title fight in Auckland at late notice, citing a back injury.
Fury got medical backing to retain his No 1 contender position and now conveniently fights Parker for the world title in his own backyard of Manchester on September 23.
Barry has upped the war of words heading into the highly anticipated clash, echoing the angry reaction from Parker's backers Duco Events earlier in the year as the English boxer scuttled their Auckland promotion.
"He wasn't ready. It was a calculated move on the part of his team," Barry told a boxing voice when asked why Fury failed to front in Auckland.
"He wasn't ready to come down to New Zealand and fight Joseph Parker in his backyard.
"The way it worked out, he is now fighting in his home town. Sometimes you have got to be careful what you wish for.
"We know that he was never going to come to New Zealand, but I can promise you this ... we are going to be in Manchester."
As to where Fury stood in terms of toughness for Parker, Barry couldn't resist a dig at the lanky 22-year-old Brit who, like the Kiwi, is unbeaten.
"Time will tell. Hughie is a good guy, a good fighter, he's a young guy who is developing. But we have fought some real guys, we have fought opponents that other people don't want to fight."
Barry then revealed that Fury had long been on their radar.
"We have been trying to fight Hughie Fury for a long time. We put the offer out there in Joe's second year as a pro, his third year as a pro. Every time we'd say, 'Hey Hughie, we're ready' the response was always 'No, I'm not ready for that fight'," Barry told thaboxingvoice.
"So this is a guy that we have looked at for a long time. We know his strengths, we know his weaknesses.
"But he has never felt the power that he is going to feel in this fight He has never seen the speed of Joseph Parker, he has never seen the physical work of a fighter like Joseph Parker. This is really his (Fury's) biggest test ever."
Despite the unwanted delays to this compulsory title defence, Barry sees a real silver lining to having to fight Fury on the other side of the world.
Asked if Parker was going to have to go to Manchester to make the fight happen, Barry replied: "Yeah, it probably was. But the flip side of that is we have been trying to get to the UK for the last 18 months.
"It was always our plan to campaign in the UK, there are a lot of very good fights there for us and this is the beginning. This is really going to put Joseph Parker on the boxing scene in the UK. After we take care of Fury there are other guys we are coming after.
"We are coming after Tony Bellew. We are going to be fighting Anthony Joshua. That fight is going to happen ... Joseph Parker is going to be standing in front of him one day in the ring."
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(09-20-2017, 11:49 AM)Nigs Wrote: that was very staged and highly embarassing.
Higgins looked like the drunk girls on a saturday night trying to talk shit, then they get put in their place and stand there and ignore the world.
I thought Higgins did a good job
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Five reasons why Joseph Parker beats Hughie Fury video
Kiwi heavyweight boxer Joseph Parker is looking primed for his fight with Hughie Fury this weekend.
OPINION: They're billing Joseph Parker v Hughie Fury as a 50-50 fight but the bookies don't agree and nor do I.
The two square off in Manchester on Sunday (NZT) with Parker's WBO world heavyweight title on the line in Fury's back yard.
It's two unbeaten heavyweights with Parker at 23-0 with 18 KOs and Fury at 20-0 with 10 KOs. Something has to give.
Here are five reasons why Parker beats Fury.
Hughie Fury likes to fight off the ropes, counter-punching and escaping with his footwork.
POWER AND PHYSICALITY
Fury edges Parker in height and reach but that's about it. Parker looks considerably more muscular and will take a weight advantage into the fight that will be very handy if Fury, as expected, looks to tie him up on the inside when Parker comes to attack. In terms of punching power, the general consensus is that Parker has considerable more bang than Fury and more grunt than anyone Fury has previously faced. That will be telling when he hunts the elusive Fury down. Parker is over the shoulder and elbow injuries that have dogged him over the past 18 months or so and he's eager to return to his KO ways. Parker knows he needs to be the aggressor in this fight and has trained accordingly. When he gets in range he will damage Fury who is more noted for his jab than power combinations.
EXPERIENCE
Parker has more rounds under his belt – 111 to Fury's 92. But it's not just about time in the ring, it's about who that time has been spent against. Parker has fought superior opponents and come through rugged examinations from Carlos Takam and Andy Ruiz in particular. Fury has fought no-one of their class, his opponents have been second and third level at best. Fury has never been 12 rounds. Parker has a comfort about him in terms of pacing his fights, a factor that will be crucial if Fury manages to push the fight deep.
SPEED
Parker has hand speed to go with his power and that's what has seen him rise so quickly up the ranks. He can double jab and deliver thunder from both hands with accuracy. The boxing mantra is: it's the punch you don't see that gets you. Parker epitomises that and has a killer instinct to back it up. If he lands the decisive first punch he will go for the kill. Fury's speed lies in his feet and he will look to use that to frustrate the champion. Parker needs clever ring-work to trap Fury, who likes to fight off the ropes, and get his hand speed working.
MOTIVATION
Neither will be short of this ingredient with a world title on the line. But it's Parker who owns the belt and knows what it takes to win it, especially in the championship rounds. He's desperate to make a mark on debut in the UK and knows that the real riches lie beyond this fight. He has to get over this not inconsiderable hurdle but it's all oh so close now. And you sense there's something personal in this fight after all the frustrations the Furys have put Parker through with the delays and taking it away from Auckland to Manchester. There's a simmering anger to Parker and a repeated public confidence to back that up which we rarely hear from him. He really wants to make Fury pay. There's an unprecedented focus in his buildup that threatens to explode from the opening bell.
MIND GAMES
This is a traditional area of strength for the Fury camp. But Hughie isn't nearly as convincing as cousin Tyson with all his taunts and digs seeming a bit contrived. The Furys scored a coup by stealing the fight from Duco and taking it to Britain. But Team Parker have scored the early points since landing in the UK. They've had the fight commissioner replaced as well as a referee they were never comfortable with. There will be a bit more to play out over the next few days but trainer Kevin Barry has been in this business long enough to know what to react to and what to duck and weave from. One of Parker's greatest assets is his calmness out of the ring. Nothing seems to get to him until he steps through the ropes and flicks the switch. He's kept his cool in London and won't be rattled in Manchester.
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The pros and cons of referee change for Joseph Parker
Joseph Parker is used to having his arm held high in victory by the referee. Will it happen in Manchester with his WBO belt on the line?
Joseph Parker's camp are trumpeting the removal of Terry O'Connor as referee for his WBO world heavyweight title defence in Manchester but there's the feel of a double-edged sword to the change.
Parker will still have a Brit as the third man in the ring at Manchester Arena on Sunday (NZT) with Marcus McDonell elevated from the judging bench to control the fight.
O'Connor is still involved, moving to running one of three scorecards in the judging team.
It's basically a shuffling of the deck chairs, a compromise, but one that Team Parker feel comfortable with and see it as a minor victory in the battle ahead of the real war.
Here are the pros and cons to the switch made under pressure by the British Boxing Board of Control.
Hughie Fury certainly has the ability to win the WBO world heavyweight belt, especially if the fight goes the distance.
PROS
The Parker camp were never comfortable with O'Connor from the outset. They didn't like his recent history with Hughie Fury having refereed the big Brit's last two fights. It was a decent argument and eventually justified by their squeaky wheel approach of going public with it repeatedly – and infamously by promoter David Higgins' extraordinary outburst at Peter Fury, father and trainer to Hughie. Make enough noise and hope someone eventually listens, as they eventually did.
Privately there were also concerns about how O'Connor would control things and the referee will play a vital role in setting the tone of the fight with what he will allow and what he won't. Against an awkward fighter like Fury who will surely look to slow down the fight, keeping the bout active is essential for Parker.
The respected McDonnell brings almost as much experience as O'Connor and much of it is recent - McDonnell handled last weekend's WBO world middleweight title fight between Billy Joe Saunders and Willie Monroe Jr in London and this will be the fourth world title bout he has refereed in 2017.
If the fight is officiated in the right manner, Team Parker believe it will increase their man's chances of a knockout which they believe is very attainable against Fury.
Higgins maintains his energetic and unorthodox outing of the issue will emphasise the sensitivities of the subject at a time when boxing is in the spotlight again for the wrong reasons, after American judge Adalaide Byrd was suspended for her radical scorecard in last weekend's draw between Gennady Golovkin and Canelo Alvarez. The world is watching, so be on guard, is Higgins' worthy theory.
CONS
There still isn't the desired refereeing neutrality that Team Parker say was agreed on when the fight was confirmed after a long and frustrating process. Despite the change, the BBBoC have still stuck to their guns of having a local man in charge of the fight.
And it can be argued that O'Connor is now in a position of more influence being in charge of a pen rather the fight. Human nature would suggest he won't be the happiest boxing official right now, given the all the fuss made over his appointment and his subsequent demotion. But he is a veteran, a hugely experienced professional and deserves respect that he will act in a fair manner as his bosses have insisted from the outset.
There are two schools of thought when it comes to judging, especially title fights. One says the challenger has to earn the belt with a decidedly superior performance, anything marginally close suggests he's not done quite enough to claim the spoils from the champion. The other says the judges tend to look more favourably on the home fighter, unintentionally swayed by outside influences like the vocal home support. Parker had that levelled in him in his tight Auckland victories against Carlos Takam and Andy Ruiz.
So the risks remain for the Kiwi and the governing body, especially without the total neutrality that a fight of this stature surely demands.
CONCLUSION
This shuffle is a points victory to the Kiwi camp ahead of the fight but nothing more.
Parker, for the safety of his belt, needs a knockout victory in the ring. We have heard repeatedly in the buildup that he is capable of taking the referee out of the equation with his punching power and that clearly is the safest option in a title defence in his opponent's back yard.
Fury is skilled and has the ability to frustrate. He has a highly accurate jab that, combined with his elusive footwork, gives him the ability to rack up points.
A KO is still the safest way to go, for Joe.
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(09-20-2017, 08:55 AM)Ibeabuchi Wrote: why was Frans Botha there?
If Parker loses his belt to Hughie expect a FURYIous reaction back here, this promotion feels like a slow motion car wreck, Im hoping Joe can knock Fury out and put himself in the mix but even then he needs to get rid of Duco and Barry to rech that next level
I think it woud be better for the division if Joe wins. I can see Hughie either holding the title hostage or doing a Wilder and picking the least threatning opponents possible if he wins.
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