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Anthony Joshua – Tiger Tiger, learning fast…

Jim Dorney - December 16, 2015 - 53 comments

Saturday’s fight card in London heralded the arrival of a new player in the world heavyweight scene – Anthony Joshua.

Joshua has hardly flown beneath the radar until this point – that’s not been possible given his heavyweight gold medal from the London 2012 Olympic games. That said, last weekend’s fight against Dillian was his first serious test in the pro ranks, and it proved a very entertaining and gripping fight.

The fight had a great backstory, with Whyte beating Joshua in his very first amateur fight. Genuine dislike and bad blood had permeated the build up. Until his fight with Whyte, Joshua had things entirely his own way in the pro ranks, never going past the third round, and knocking out all fourteen of his opponents. Against Whyte, it looked in the first round that this fight could be more of the same, with Joshua landing heavy shots from the opening bell, and Whyte hanging on for dear life. At the end of the first, mayhem broke out when Joshua landed a shot momentarily after the bell. Whyte saw red and launched himself at Joshua, and was lucky that he wasn’t disqualified.

In reality, the extended break required to calm things down was probably a godsend for Whyte. The second started with Joshua again having the better of things. Midway through the round, Joshua appeared to think Whyte was there for the taking and started swinging, leaving himself open to a huge counter left hook from Whyte that would have dropped most fighters in the division. Whyte later claimed that he injured his shoulder with that shot (more on that later), but he continued to have success for the rest of the second, with Joshua looking heavy-legged and dazed.

Whyte arguably edged the third round, with Joshua still appearing a little out of sorts. From that point on, it was all AJ. Joshua found his range quickly in the fourth, and by the end, Whyte’s body language was starting to look negative. The role had reversed – Joshua was initiating everything and landing accurately, whereas Whyte had been doing so in the second and third.

Whilst Whyte continued to return fire and demonstrate a great chin, he didn’t landed few shots from the third, particularly clean shots. Early in the seventh, Joshua caught Whyte with a solid right high on the head, and around 20 seconds later landed a sickening uppercut that looked like it would have stopped an elephant.

Joshua has some notable similarities to one of the existing heavyweight champions, Deontay Wilder;

Both came to boxing relatively late but had impressive success in spite of this (Wilder winning the US’s only boxing medal in the 2008 Olympics (a bronze) and Joshua winning the gold medal in the 2012 Olympics)

Both are natural athletes, and have imposing size, reach and knockout power

Both have attracted controversy for their past or behaviour out of the ring (Joshua for drugs and Wilder for domestic abuse), but now appear to be looking to overcome this by using their status to be role models

Where their careers in the pro ranks have differed however, is the speed they have been nurtured. Whilst Wilder has been widely criticised for the level of opposition he has faced, Joshua appears to be less risk-averse.

Wilder’s concussive power is undeniable, but when you search through his first 30 opponents, it’s striking how few recognisable names there are – even moreso his first 15 opponents. Of note (in chronological order) there is;

Owen Beck (when 22-0). A one-time challenger for Nikolay Valuev’s WBA title, but suffered seven further defeats prior to facing Wilder

Kertson Manswell (When 23-0). High-level journeyman, who lost his 0 to Stiverne, then lost to Mike Perez, Cedric Boswell, Ruslan Chagaev & Alexander Povetkin prior to facing Wilder. His record currently stands at 24-12

Kelvin Price (when 25-0). Price was unbeaten at 16-0 at the point he fought Wilder. Tall (6’7), but without much power (6 KOs from 16), Price did fairly well for two rounds, but was caught and stopped in the third

Audley Harrison (when 27-0). Much-hyped early in his career having won Olympic gold like Joshua, Harrison frustrated boxing fans by not having the mental strength to match his natural physical attributes. The Wilder fight was his last, stopped in the first round as he was by David Price after being blown to pieces by David Haye in the third round two years before

Siarhei Liakhovich (when 28-0). Won and lost the WBO heavyweight title in 2006 against Lamon Brewster and Shannon Briggs respectively. When on his game, Liakhovich can be a tricky and classy boxer, and whilst he was brutally knocked out by Wilder in the first round, he recently lost a close decision to on-the-rise undefeated prospect Andy Ruiz Jr. After Stiverne and Scott, Liakhovich is (in my view) Wilder’s most impressive win to date

Nicolai Firtha (when 29-0). A decent journeyman with size and experience, Firtha rocked Tyson Fury when they fought two years before. Since being stopped (arguably prematurely) against Fury, Firtha lost a lopsided 12-round decision to Johnathon Banks, and beat aging fellow decent journeyman Robert Hawkins by MD before losing by KO in 4 to Wilder, his last fight to date

…and that’s it, really. Otherwise on Wilder’s resume to that point, were unknowns, largely with losing records. The first time Wilder fought an opponent with a winning record was 2-0-1 Jerry Vaughn when Wilder was 7-0. The level of opposition for Wilder was upped in his 31st fight when he took on one of the best pure boxers in the division in Malik Scott, and followed up that first round blowout with beating WBC champion Bermane Stiverne in his first defence of the vacant title he won in a box-off with Chris Arreola

Conversely, Joshua’s first fight was against 9-0 Emanuel Leo. Granted Leo was no world-beater by any stretch of the imagination, but nonetheless, a far more ballsy debut. Also by contrast, Joshua has only fought two fighters with losing records in his fifteen bouts to date, and the win-loss ratio of his opponents are much more impressive than Wilder’s equivalent by that point. Other than Whyte who was clearly Joshua’s toughest opponent to date, other fighters he’s beaten that are worth a mention include;

Matt Skelton (when 6-0). Skelton was not hugely skilled but always a tough, testing opponent, who previously held both the British and Commonwealth titles and beat a number of decent fighters)

Denis Bakhtov (when 8-0). Another durable journeyman, Bahktov has gone the distance but lost decisions to Andrzej Wawryk, Alexander Ustinov and Vyacheslav Glazkov)

Michael Sprott (when 9-0). Sport was a perennial British title challenger, beating both Harrison (when younger and fresher) and Williams and twice winning the Prizefighter heavyweight tournament (as did Harrison once)

Kevin Johnson (when 12-0). Only stopped by Joshua to date, Johnson had a solid defence, and whilst he fought negatively in his title challenge to Vitali Klitschko when undefeated, he continued to represent a riddle to his subsequent opponents)

So – Joshua appears to be pursuing his career with more risk and urgency than most every heavyweight on the scene.

When reflecting on the Whyte fight – this was no easy win for Joshua. He had to struggle, his chin was seriously tested, and he was taken well into uncharted waters. He was staggered in the second round, lost the third (at least on my card), and had to adjust in order to win. As a result, he gained invaluable experience. Briefly returning to Wilder – it’s interesting that he’s not had any equivalent ‘learning’ fights prior to fighting for the title, and I’d argue the same applies in his two voluntary defences since. I wonder whether not having had a fight like Whyte prior to defending a title may prove an issue for Wilder. Most titleholders have been challenged prior, and I’m intrigued to see how Wilder copes with adversity from this point.

Joshua himself acknowledged after the Whyte fight that he needs more experience and more rounds before he’s ready to step up to world level. That’s almost certainly true. Whilst he has shown great potential thus far, he’s presently a work in progress, and will need to study the Whyte fight to iron out the opportunities Whyte managed to exploit. I reckon in around 18 months (by which time I’d expect Joshua to have had around 20 fights) he might be ready. That’s a pretty rapid learning curve (as was Fury’s 24-0 record at the point he defied the odds against Wladimir Klitschko).

I wonder what the scene will look like by then. Who knows whether Fury or Wilder will still be titleholders. If they are though, a fight with Joshua against either would be a tantalising prospect.

For Dillian Whyte’s part, I don’t think the loss to Joshua will do him any disservice, other than possibly render him being seen as a high-risk and low-reward proposition. Dillian claimed after the fight that he should have a rematch as he was carrying an injury to his left shoulder which went after the shot that stunned Joshua momentarily in the second round. Having watched the fight a few times, I have an issue with this claim, since Whyte went on to throw left hooks until the sixth round, and whilst they generally didn’t connect he didn’t appear to be in any way pulling the shots. Paulie Malignaggi even noted that he attempted the same left hook in the sixth that he’d had success with in the second.

Nevertheless, Whyte needs to rebuild his career before that’s liable to be an issue, unless one of the top heavyweights want to throw him a quick bone, but I’d be surprised if that was the case.
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#62
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I call it the Whyte Wobble. 
Round 2, after AJ was put onto the ropes with a decent short left hook, Whyte started to look like he was the one struggling with punch haze....

Weird..
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#63
I think he didn't know what to do once he finally had AJ in trouble, and fell over himself.
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#64
I slowed down the 1st two rounds on youtube at half speed, and counted the power punches connected and clean solid jabs. I only did the counting on punches cleanly landed by Whyte.

Round 1- 5
Round 2- 10

I'm sure Hearn and Joshua's trainer would be concerned with the amount of punches that were connected.
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