Joseph Parker

[diehard]

Here's JP/Hrgovic in the amateurs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46ciCh5ok2w

[diehard]

Still haven't seen an official split. Mainly conjecture. Although if JP passed on it, it's probably true.

[diehard]

Can anyone get into this paywall?  The first part that I could read said he was dealing with an elbow injury, not the split.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/why-joseph-parker-turned-down-ibf-world-title-eliminator-fight/FCNMWEI6ADR6Y4FMUF5GF5FJSI/

[Kiwi]

Parker's route now goes thru Joyce

who is a far bigger name than Hrgovic

and therefore makes BOTH dollars and sense

[Kiwi]

And yes - my info on the split comes from a guy quoting the IBF rules

on the forums

[diehard]

(01-07-2022, 02:00 PM)Kiwi Wrote: Parker's route now goes thru Joyce

who is a far bigger name than Hrgovic

and therefore makes BOTH dollars and sense

And, JJ is a UK fighter, so the $$$ and hype will be better.

[diehard]

Based on the IBF’s rules for final eliminators, the highest rated fighter (ranked 3rd or below) receives 60% of the purse split, with the lower ranked fighter only receiving 40%.

If Hrgovic was rated 1st or 2nd by the IBF, he’d be entitled to 75% of the purse split if he was to engage in a final eliminator against a lower ranked fighter (who’d only receive 25%).

Basically, is it reasonable for fans to expect the likes of Hunter, Parker and Ortiz to take pay cuts and receive a smaller purse than a commercially unpopular anonymous fighter like Filip Hrgovic?

[diehard]

Here's the entire piece:

Are the IBF's rules the reason why heavyweights are rejecting the Hrgovic bout?

Is the real reason for heavyweights flatly refusing to engage in IBF final eliminators due to the IBF’s own rules?

The IBF had lots of fighters refusing to engage in final eliminators against Kubrat Pulev (due to them only receiving a 25% purse split – i.e. Jarrell Miller, Dillian Whyte etc.).

And more recently, the likes of Michael Hunter, Luis Ortiz & Joseph Parker have refused to participate in a final eliminator against Filip Hrgovic.

It’s impossible to deny the likes of Dillian Whyte should have been the massive A-side over Kubrat Pulev. The same applies to Parker, Ortiz & Hunter over Hrgovic.

And fighters accustomed to receiving millions of dollars per bout, like Ortiz & Parker, won’t even consider fighting Filip Hrgovic for peanuts.

I’ve laboured over this point before, but I think it’s serious flaw with the IBF’s rules, because fights won’t happen if fighters aren’t being paid their worth.

Anyway, according to the IBF’s rules, Luis Ortiz and Joseph Parker are rated below Filip Hrgovic, with the Croatian rated 3rd.

Based on the IBF’s rules for final eliminators, the highest rated fighter (ranked 3rd or below) receives 60% of the purse split, with the lower ranked fighter only receiving 40%.

If Hrgovic was rated 1st or 2nd by the IBF, he’d be entitled to 75% of the purse split if he was to engage in a final eliminator against a lower ranked fighter (who’d only receive 25%).

Basically, is it reasonable for fans to expect the likes of Hunter, Parker and Ortiz to take pay cuts and receive a smaller purse than a commercially unpopular anonymous fighter like Filip Hrgovic?

hrgovic was so highly ranked before he had beat a pulse or being in a meaningfull fight... because of that there is a Croatian whos best win is arguably mansour in 2018 commanding the big split against guys that have been grinding out tough fights.

[diehard]

Joseph Parker declines IBF eliminator fight with Croatia's Filip Hrgovic
Stuff sports reporters

New Zealand heavyweight boxer Joseph Parker has declined an offer to meet Croatia's Filip Hrgovic in an IBF eliminator fight.

Recent reports had suggested that because Cuba's Luiz Ortiz had turned down a fight with Hrgovic there was a chance the 29-year-old Parker, as the next contender in the rankings, could fill the vacancy.

But it turns out that Parker, who had until Friday to decide whether to fight Hrgovic, wasn't interested. This was despite Britain's Sky Sports website claiming earlier this week that Parker, who beat Derek Chisora in Manchester last month, had emerged as the most likely opponent for the Croatian.

Anyone aspiring to have a crack at Olesksandr Usyk’s IBF heavyweight title must first face Hrgovic, a 2016 Rio Olympic Games bronze medallist.

Parker, the No 3-ranked contender, had been instructed by the IBF to enter talks with Hrgovic - but Hrgovic's promoters have said he has already pulled out.

Parker's camp has been reported as saying it turned down the fight because Parker was focusing on recovering from injuries. This includes issues with his elbows, which have dogged him during his career.

“Joseph's plan was to recuperate a bit and then go to the doctor, and maybe a specialist to get some assessment of the elbows before then planning his next steps,’' Parker's manager David Higgins told NZME.

Higgins said Parker also had been nursing a burst eardrum from his fight against Chisora.

Higgins said the Parker camp had told the IBF they had to “politely decline'’ the opportunity to fight Hrgovic. Higgins also suggested to NZME he had a “loose discussion’' which confirmed the money on offer was “crap'’.

But a representative from Hrgovic camp said no reason had been given for why the fight wouldn't go ahead.

"We weren't given a reason," Kalle Sauerland, who represents Hrgovic, told Sky Sports. "The rankings become a mockery. We have gone through the rankings before.

"This isn't about rejecting financial terms because fighters are rejecting us before we even discuss that. They are rejecting an opportunity to fight for the world title.

"All we can do is lobby the IBF to continue through the rankings as soon as possible or make Filip a direct mandatory.

"That is something we are pushing.'’

Hrgovic, who is currently ranked No 2, must now continue to search for an opponent for an IBF final eliminator. The Croatian is undefeated in 14 pro fights with 12 KOs.

The vastly more experienced Parker has a 30-2 record.

— Dan Rafael (@DanRafael1) January 4, 2022
Hrgovic must, in order of the rankings, enter negotiations with each contender until he strikes an agreement to fight.

The winner of a final eliminator would then later earn a mandatory shot at the IBF belt, which Usyk is set to defend against Anthony Joshua.

[diehard]

Looks like the boxrec forum is up with the play better than the ESB forum:

https://boxrec.com/v3/forum/viewtopic.php?t=251688&p=5682268