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Stormy, so Stiverne has to be hurt before he can hurt Wilder? Nah, I know what you are saying. Wilder NEVER gets wild until his opponent is hurt. By then, it's too late for his opponent to do anything. I honestly don't think he's wild or off balance. But he is very wide with his punches. So is Parker. And Tua for that matter. Guess they feel they can throw caution to the wind. I haven't seen it lately, but I like those fights like Hagler vs Hearns, where the guy is clearly hurt, but then comes back with something of his own.
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(01-11-2015, 01:27 PM)diehard Wrote: Stormy, so Stiverne has to be hurt before he can hurt Wilder? Nah, I know what you are saying. Wilder NEVER gets wild until his opponent is hurt. By then, it's too late for his opponent to do anything. I honestly don't think he's wild or off balance. But he is very wide with his punches. So is Parker. And Tua for that matter. Guess they feel they can throw caution to the wind. I haven't seen it lately, but I like those fights like Hagler vs Hearns, where the guy is clearly hurt, but then comes back with something of his own.
I was thinking it is best for him to get to Wilder first,before Wilder gets to him eh die. Just hanging around on the outside, and waiting to see what happens would be a terrible idea for Stiverne.
Wilder is a confidence fighter, and one that can seemingly pack a punch. The longer you give him to get relaxed the better he is going to perform and you dont want to make things harder for yourself by giving him all of the early rounds as part of your strategy to wear him out whilst taking him into the deeper waters.
The Arreola fight showed us Stiverne can bang a bit too, so it may be a case of who gets to who first. Stiverne will more than likely be forced to keep his distance, and getting to the inside is not an easy task against the 6 foot 7 Wilder.
I will trim down my opinion of Wilders ability a wee bit, and say that Wilder tries too hard sometimes when he chooses to attack, particularly when he is trying to finish the job off, he throws defense and technique right out of the proverbial window :-)
This fight will should be very revealing. I want to see Stiverne land a good solid shot to see how Wilder reacts. I want to see him hit real hard :-)
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The first good match of Wilder in his career.... let s see if he can knock Stiverne out... it won´t be so easy like before.... I bet Stiverne unanimous decision.....
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I bet Wilder by KO....I wouldnt want to spoil his perfect record that is filled with beatdowns :-)
What Stiverne did to Arreola is what i think Tua could of done when he was still around.
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Thanks for the youtube clip Jamieson, going to be a good scrap. I don't see Stiverne winning this either Storm, Wilder's size and athletism(loved that dunk in the clip) will be too much for Stiverne I reckon. Everyone seems to think this will be the first live opponent for Wilder but my hunch is it will be a short night out for Wilder again..... inside 4 is my prediction.
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(01-07-2015, 12:29 AM)Steven Wrote: Flailing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxJ8uOyII58#t=269
He clearly has power, but I will be surprised if Wilder wins. Stiverne will avoid most of what Wilder has, take his time, and then flatten him just like he did with Arreola. This one ends with Wilder with a broken nose and a 1 in the loss column.
(01-12-2015, 04:05 PM)Daneo Wrote: Thanks for the youtube clip Jamieson, going to be a good scrap. I don't see Stiverne winning this either Storm, Wilder's size and athletism(loved that dunk in the clip) will be too much for Stiverne I reckon. Everyone seems to think this will be the first live opponent for Wilder but my hunch is it will be a short night out for Wilder again..... inside 4 is my prediction.
Your welcome
this is Wilder's best opponent by a long shot
look for Wilder to go all baby gazelle
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Stiverne might catch him in a contra when Wilder goes to the attack looking for a ko.... and Stiverne has got punching power too and more brain lol....
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Deontay Wilder can beat Stiverne in 3 or 4 rounds, says Foreman
By Jeff Sorby | January 12, 2015 | 35 Comments
Former heavyweight champion George Foreman believes that American Deontay Wilder (32-0, 32 KOs) has what it takes to unseat WBC heavyweight champion Bermane Stiverne (24-1-1, 21 KOs) this Saturday night in their fight at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada. Foreman thinks that the 6’7” Deontay has to fight the way that brought him this far by him being aggressive and not letting up on the shorter 36-year-old Stiverne.
Foreman thinks that Deontay needs to be smart but aggressive at all times. He can’t play it safe against Stiverne and expect to win.
“If he stays aggressive, Deontay Wilder wins but he’s got to fight downhill and stay aggressive against Bermane Stiverne. As long as Wilder remains aggressive, then I think I could have [Stiverne] out of there in three or four rounds,” Foreman said via RingTV.com.
I’m sure that not too many boxing fans would agree with what Foreman is saying here about Wilder being able to get the steel-chinned Stiverne out in 3 or 4 rounds like he says. Stiverne took Chris Arreola’s best shots in two of their fights and was able to give him a real pounding both times. With that said, Wilder is a much better puncher than Arreola with more size and faster hands. Having a guy like Wilder pounding you with right hands over and over again could be too much for Stiverne if he’s not able to catch him with one of his sneaky left hooks like he kept catching Arreola with in their two fights.
“Wilder cannot allow Stiverne to start picking him apart and turn it into a boxing match because he could lose that way,” Foreman said. “Wilder can use his jab to set up Stiverne but once you get that real estate, don’t give it up and let it go back and forth.”
Stiverne doesn’t really have the reach to pick Deontay Wilder apart with shots. Stiverne has a good jab, but the only that lands is if Wilder stands close enough for him to connect with those shots.
Most likely, Stiverne will be waiting on Wilder to try and catch him with a left hook after he throws one of his power shots. If Wilder gets close enough, Stiverne will look to catch him with a left and then a right. Wilder tends to start brawling when he’s hit, and that could either good or bad for Stiverne. Wilder has the faster hands and he’s got all that leverage he can use on his shots. If he catches Stiverne just right, it’s going to be good night for the Canadian based fighter.
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Was watching the last clip that ESPN put out on the fight, the clips of the their highlights are like night and day. Wilder just looks so much sharper and so much faster than Stiverne. Stiverne throws such short punches I don't see how he'll get inside of Wilder's reach. Wilder's punch accuracy is top notch too, compared to Arreola who is all over the shop I don't see Stiverne tagging him with those left hook counters.
I still don't see this as a massive test for the bronze bomber, Stiverne beat a very limited guy in Arreola - Anyone top fighter at HW should have no trouble with Arreola IMHO.
