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RE: Izu Ugonoh - shamrock - 02-28-2017

And isn't lactic acid caused by some aspects of overtraining


RE: Izu Ugonoh - markk - 02-28-2017

lactic acid s the by product of using energy without oxygen. it can take months to get out of your system if you over do it in training. Looking at is shoots they were all at 100 percent. in a 400m race if you out hard you can never recover. id suggest that is what happened. every is a hard thing to control. i guess Izu blew most guys away in 3 or 4 so never had to face him self. He definitely looked unto it from a skill point of view. i think he just was too excited and went lactic. I've seen guys in track have lactic issues for a long time and they have had to retire or move down a distance


RE: Izu Ugonoh - shamrock - 02-28-2017

Thanks Markk, when I was high country fencing and went to gym most evenings the boys were always suspected of lactic acid in their system. We endeavored to work lighter shorter days for the suspect anyway 3 weeks out from a major tourney


RE: Izu Ugonoh - Msreef - 02-28-2017

They had gyms in the 1940s Sham?


RE: Izu Ugonoh - Infern0 - 02-28-2017

(02-28-2017, 09:32 PM)Msreef Wrote: They had gyms in the 1940s Sham?

They trained by carrying bails of hay. And their nutrition was meat, potatos and gravy


RE: Izu Ugonoh - diehard - 03-01-2017

Izu didn't look over-trained to me. He seemed sharp. When I see a boxer over-trained, they seem flat and tired. Izu was anything but. But if it were true that he was over-trained, then Izu made the same mistake as Parker did before the Takam fight when he did a 12 week training camp. Under KB. KB better take better care of his fighters. I know both Parker and Izu are keen, but it's KB's job to pace their training camp.

I think Izu's problem, as he's said, is that he tried to KO him early. When he couldn't and got knocked down himself, I think he panicked, and consesquently used up all his energy, as well as energy from throwing so many punches early.

He was getting to Breazeale easily. He just needed to stay out of the exchanges and continue to outbox him until the later rounds, as the KO would come. But try telling that to a fighter who has knocked down his opponent and almost has him KO'd. Especially a guy with under 20 fights. IF he had KO'd him, we'd be telling a whole different story now.


RE: Izu Ugonoh - shamrock - 03-01-2017

Reasonable analysis die, but Izu probably did a good stint in the ams before 20 or fights as a pro which is enough really to know how ones going in the battle and how his reserves are holding up. My guess is his head was out of it after the 1st knockdown and Brezeale was on to him. Sad result but hope he can come back.


RE: Izu Ugonoh - shamrock - 03-01-2017

(02-28-2017, 10:21 PM)Infern0 Wrote:
(02-28-2017, 09:32 PM)Msreef Wrote: They had gyms in the 1940s Sham?

They trained by carrying bails of hay. And their nutrition was meat, potatos and gravy

Yes I guess I'm closer to 130 yrs old than you bright stars but our gym only closed 3yrs ago with 5 amateur champions and one pro. There were 30regulars at boxing sessions and 20 at fitness. As a matter of fact inferno we did eat meat spudsand gravy and we still do. Love it


RE: Izu Ugonoh - markk - 03-01-2017

(03-01-2017, 03:32 PM)shamrock Wrote:
(02-28-2017, 10:21 PM)Infern0 Wrote:
(02-28-2017, 09:32 PM)Msreef Wrote: They had gyms in the 1940s Sham?

They trained by carrying bails of hay. And their nutrition was meat, potatos and gravy

Yes I guess I'm closer to 130 yrs old than you bright stars but our gym only closed 3yrs ago with 5 amateur champions and one pro. There were 30regulars at boxing sessions and 20 at fitness. As a matter of fact inferno we did eat meat spudsand gravy and we still do. Love it

Lactic build up can happen in 20-30 seconds and take a day to recover from. You literally hit a wall. I think David price has a lactic tolerance problem . Maybe izu does as well. Time will tell. Training lactic production and tolerance is a critical aspect of boxing imo. Some people just flat out can't do either


RE: Izu Ugonoh - shamrock - 03-01-2017

That's quite technical Markk, the ordinary joblogs wouldn't have a clue on how that works. We were well in the dark with it 30-40 years ago and some considered hard work and heavy toil for 8-9 hours was the way to go with fight power.. it did work to a degree but other things suffered like as in speed and as it turns out endurance as well. Some of the guys could bang though.