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RE: Joshua vs Parker betting - bart - 03-23-2018

nah just a clean up not feckin heart surgery
rugby players have knee cartilage ops and play in 3 weeks


RE: Joshua vs Parker betting - Msreef - 03-23-2018

(03-23-2018, 07:57 PM)Infern0 Wrote: Boxing Gossip made a good point about Joes bionic elbows.

He said would you rather fight a guy that was 3 months out of double arm surgery or a guy who wasn't.

Fair point that nobody in NZ is thinking about

I seriously cannot see KB putting Joe in against AJ unless he is 100%, regardless of how lucrative the deal is.
IMO it shows that the surgery did go well, and that Joe is looking just as good, or better than before, otherwise I don't think the fight would be going ahead.
It's just a bit of bone and cartilage that was removed from his elbows, it's not like he's had internal stitches or anything. When the wound has healed fully externally I don't see what can go wrong.

I had a similar operation on my right knee about 18 months ago. I could walk around fine right after surgery with no pain. It was 'keyhole' surgery and really was no big deal to recover from.


RE: Joshua vs Parker betting - Infern0 - 03-23-2018

(03-23-2018, 08:16 PM)diehard Wrote: Wouldn't they be healed three months out?  Otherwise, they could have made the fight later in the year.

Healed, probably but BG also pointed out that he had surgery in december, then entered training camp in January, would they have been healed by then?

Point was it raises questions.


RE: Joshua vs Parker betting - diehard - 03-23-2018

Interview: Joseph Parker

WBO heavyweight champion Joseph Parker and trainer Kevin Barry talk to the press about the March 31 unification clash with WBA/IBF champion Anthony Joshua in Cardiff, Wales.

Joseph Parker: “It’s been a great training camp that we’ve had in Las Vegas and now we’re here in London. We have about a week and a half before the fight and like Kevin mentioned, we hit the ground running. We got some good sessions in. I’m looking forward to fighting an undefeated fighter like Anthony Joshua, who I respect. I’m looking forward to this opportunity to unify the division and unify the belts and the opportunity to put on a great display and make my mark on SHOWTIME. I can’t wait for it. Our team is excited to be here and it’s going to be a great opportunity for us.”

Q: When you watch the struggles Joshua had against Klitschko, what do you take away from that fight?

Parker: “I think being active has worked well for us. I watched that fight. He did really well in terms of coming back and showed a lot of heart to get back up off the canvas and finish off the fight and getting the win. Coming into this fight, we’re young, we’re hungry and I think if we did get him in trouble there’s no waiting for us. We know how to finish off a fight. We know how to put on the pressure and get him out of there. He has strengths and weaknesses like every other fighter has and we’ll come up with a good game plan which I believe in and if I execute, I think we’ll get the victory.”

Kevin Barry: “As we know, there’s no secret about it, this is the biggest test that Joe’s had in front of him. But I also believe that this is the biggest test that Anthony Joshua’s had in front of him. We are expecting a much better Anthony Joshua than the one that fought Klitschko. I think there’s a lot of improvement in him just as there’s a lot of improvement in Joe. We’re anticipating that the styles of both these guys are going to make for a real fan-friendly fight and a very exciting fight.”

Q: There’s so much attention paid to an Anthony Joshua-Deontay Wilder fight, as if it’s an assumption that he’s going to beat you. Does that bother you?

Parker: “It doesn’t really bother me. I think everyone is entitled to their opinion and the fight they want to see. I think what’s important for us is that we focus on what’s in front of us and that’s Anthony Joshua. Our focus is on Anthony Joshua and being in great shape and being healthy. It gives us motivation in training and we know what our focus is. Our focus is Anthony Joshua and putting on the best performance of our lives March 31.”

Q: As a fan of boxing, how good is a match like this for the sport?

Parker: “A match like this is a very big deal. As a fan of boxing and as a fighter, we love to watch the big fights and be involved in the big fights. So we’re pretty happy to be involved in the fight. I think it’s the best time for us to be involved in a big fight like this. Back a few years ago, Kevin said he’s always wanted to fight Anthony Joshua and he said to me, when we do fight this guy, it has to mean something. And it does really mean something this time. We’re both undefeated, we both have titles, we’re both world champions and we both want to unify the division so it’s going to mean a lot and it’s a big occasion.”

Q: A lot of fans don’t know you in the United States, explain to them what you will bring to the table on March 31.

Parker: “The fans haven’t really seen the best Joseph Parker there is. Going into this fight, we’ve worked on a lot of things. Like I said, I trust in my whole team. I trust in my coach and the game plan. I’m going to bring a lot of movement, speed and power and a lot of angles. I promise that this is a fight that I’m going to make very exciting.”

Q: What was the reason behind losing weight heading into this fight?

Barry: “Joe’s still a very young heavyweight. We’ve been together for five years and we’re still a long way away from a finished product. Last year, we bumped Joe up quite a bit. We put a bunch of muscle on him. We put an extra 10 pounds of weight on him and it actually doesn’t really work out for us. So we sat down, Joe and I, and we said that we felt he was a busier fighter, a more mobile fighter, his feet and hands were faster, when he was lighter. So for a fight like this against a big, strong, powerful guy like Joshua it was important that we went back to a mobile, lighter fighter.”

Q: Do you think Joshua and Eddie Hearn saw something the rest of the world didn’t see in your fight against Hughie Fury, which wasn’t your best performance?

Parker: “Last year wasn’t our best year and I wasn’t close to what we can actually do in the ring. They probably saw a lot of things that they could work on to get to us but we’re a totally different fighter now from where we were last year. We’ve improved on a lot of things and we’re going to show everyone what we’ve been working so hard on in Vegas.”

Q: What would it mean to you to become the unified heavyweight champion?

Parker: “It would mean a lot. It would mean the world, not only for myself but for our team. There’s a lot of people that’s involved in getting me to this stage and there’s a lot of people that want me to go out there and put on my best performance. It’s going to mean a lot for myself, my team, my coach and my countries of New Zealand and Samoa.”

Q: Are you concerned that if the fight goes to the scorecards you won’t get a fair shake because of Joshua’s popularity in Great Britain?

Parker: “I’m not concerned and the reason I say that is because we have good officials. My team has done a great job to get neutral officials and my focus is on the fight. I want to go out there and do my best. Whatever happens, happens. But I trust that the officials will do the right thing and give the right decision.”

Barry: ”It was very important for us when we were formulating this contract that we had independent, neutral officials. We have three judges – one from the United States, one from the UK and one from New Zealand. And we have an Italian referee so we’re very happy with the names that have been put forward that there will be no disputing the decision. We believe that we have fair, very experienced officials who will do a good job come Saturday the 31st.”

Q: Do you think Joshua is underestimating you based on what they saw in that fight against Fury?

Parker: “I think on that performance, they are underestimating us and I think a lot of people are already writing us off because of that performance. But, like I said, we’ve worked on a lot of things and we had a great camp and it’s going to be a different fight as you guys will see March 31. If they’re judging us off that fight, then they’ve got it totally wrong. That could definitely work in our favor.”

Barry: “I think the same will go for both camps. If they’re looking at the Fury fight, we know that Joseph is a much better fighter than that. Fury was a very awkward opponent, an opponent that we wouldn’t have even been in the ring with if it wasn’t for a mandatory. Looking at Joshua’s last fight with Carlos Takam, he really didn’t light the world on fire in that fight and he left a lot of question marks about his performance. We’re expecting a much better Joshua than the one that fought Carlos Takam. So the same can be said both ways.”

Q: What did you think of Joshua’s performance against Takam?

Parker: “It wasn’t his best effort but he did what he had to do to get the victory. Maybe training with someone who was a lot taller and then fighting somebody shorter changed the way that he approached the fight but I think the main thing is that he got the victory and he kept the belts and that’s why we can make this big fight happen.”

Q: What do you think your advantages are over Joshua?

Parker: “I’ve been 12 rounds five times so I’m durable. With this training camp that we’ve had, we’ve worked a lot on different angles and speed. What we’ve been seeing in the gym and in sparring, we’re going to put on display come fight night. I think I have advantages in speed and power. If we execute it well on fight night then he won’t be able to catch us and he won’t be able to land that big shot that he throws.”

Barry: “Speed is the key. We’ve always believed that Joe’s the fastest heavyweight in the world. I also believe that out of all the heavyweight champions, I think Joe has the better skill. I think he does things better than Joshua does. I think he’s more complete than Joshua. Is he as big as Joshua? No. Is his reach as long as Joshua’s? No. Joshua’s got a 100 percent knockout record but I believe Joseph Parker is a better skilled fighter than Antony Joshua and I think when we put the movement, the hand speed and the skill together, it’s going to be a very good combination and a successful combination on March 31.”

Q: Do you want to make a prediction for the fight?

Parker: “I’m going to be victorious. It’s going to be a great fight. We’re both hungry, we’re both undefeated and we’ve both been training hard but I believe in myself. I believe in my team and what we’ve been working on. I believe I’m going to be victorious March 31.”

Q: Do you think that Joshua’s chin is a big weakness for him?

Barry: “I think he has a pretty good chin. I know that we used the glass door as part of our marketing strategy in putting this fight together, but we believe as a team that Joshua has a good chin. He’s fought some big guys. He’s been hit on the chin before. Sure, he got dropped against Klitschko and there were stories of him getting dropped multiple times in the amateurs and that he was dropped in the gym in sparring, but all in all he’s a big, strong, powerful guy and I think his chin is not too bad.”

Barry (Opening Comments): “We’ve been in the gym running each morning at 6:30, 7:00 and in the boxing gym at 2:30. We’ve been doing between 16 and 18 rounds of boxing each day. Today we sparred and Joe is looking very sharp, very confident and the little bit of jet lag that we had is getting less and less by the day and we anticipate by this weekend we’ll have both feet firmly planted on the ground ready for a big week next week.”


RE: Joshua vs Parker betting - diehard - 03-23-2018

https://www.boxingscene.com/parker-feels-boost-from-deontay-wilders-encouraging-words--126479


RE: Joshua vs Parker betting - bopman - 03-23-2018

(03-23-2018, 08:20 PM)Msreef Wrote:
(03-23-2018, 07:57 PM)Infern0 Wrote: Boxing Gossip made a good point about Joes bionic elbows.

He said would you rather fight a guy that was 3 months out of double arm surgery or a guy who wasn't.

Fair point that nobody in NZ is thinking about

I seriously cannot see KB putting Joe in against AJ unless he is 100%, regardless of how lucrative the deal is.
IMO it shows that the surgery did go well, and that Joe is looking just as good, or better than before, otherwise I don't think the fight would be going ahead.
It's just a bit of bone and cartilage that was removed from his elbows, it's not like he's had internal stitches or anything. When the wound has healed fully externally I don't see what can go wrong.

I had a similar operation on my right knee about 18 months ago. I could walk around fine right after surgery with no pain. It was 'keyhole' surgery and really was no big deal to recover from.

Ye sounds like it was just a graft, I've had this twice on my left knee. First surgery was shit but second I was playing footy in two months. Bone Graft done on my hip, playing footy again in a month. No biggie. One thing I did find though after the graft in my knee was that it did feel weaker both times.


RE: Joshua vs Parker betting - U.K. Fight Fan - 03-24-2018

Wow, Joshua is looking very good lads. Sharp, lean, trim, explosive.

I'm worried for Joseph. Could be on the end of a beating.

#prayforjoe


RE: Joshua vs Parker betting - diehard - 03-24-2018

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/combat-sports/102555684/joseph-parker-to-anthony-joshua-youre-going-to-get-the-full-parker


RE: Joshua vs Parker betting - diehard - 03-24-2018

Anthony Joshua v Joseph Parker: Parker demands Joshua be "more respectful"

One week out from the fight of his life, Joseph Parker is the media darling of New Zealand sport but it seems the love affair is a two-way street.

The Kiwi heavyweight has fired a volley of verbal blows at Anthony Joshua during a press conference on Friday (Saturday NZT) and his biggest gripe is the big Brit's lack of respect for the New Zealand and Samoan media.

Earlier in the week - ahead of the world heavyweight unification title fight for their WBA, IBF and WBO belts in Cardiff on March 31 (April 1 NZ Time) - Joshua is alleged to have shunned the waiting New Zealand and Samoa media.

A move that saw Parker demand Joshua be "more respectful".

"It's his decision but it's disrespectful," Parker told SKY Sports UK.

"They've travelled a long way to see [Joshua], and they respect him.

"We were friendly [to British media] and invited them to our home. He should be more respectful."

Anthony Joshua is expected to weigh in much lighter than his previous fights.

In a fiery press conference, Parker has also thrown doubt over Joshua's preparations following speculation he will hit the scales much lighter than his bulked frame weighed in at for his win over Wladimir Klitschko last year.

"If he trusted in his body, he wouldn't be trying to change who he is.

"He's trying to be faster and leaner - I don't know if he is trying to be him or me? We will be lighter. Faster, stronger, better movement," Parker told SKY Sports UK.

Parker said his team are focussing on their own preparation and are not concerned with Joshua.

"They can do whatever they want - it won't change a thing. He's probably trying to get advice from Klitschko.

"We have [Joshua vs Klitschko] playing in the gym every day. There are things we saw that we can do better. We can catch AJ," Parker said.

"The public are judging us on our last two or three fights and they see Joshua as a fighter who is [unbeatable]. There is the element of surprise. Everyone thinks this is an easy win for him, but that's motivation for us. I want to get in there and bash him.

"They are looking past our team. If they are in discussions [to fight Deontay Wilder], so be it. But he has to be careful because someone's in their way."

Meanwhile, Parker is predicting plenty of improvement from his much talked about double elbow surgery that he underwent in December.

"In the past five or six fights I haven't shown the jab that I showed early in my career," he said. "The jab is key to set up our attack phases, and I have it back now. There will be a lot of jabs," Parker told SKY Sports UK.

Parker's trainer, Kevin Barry is also praising the effects of the surgery.

"We tried to schedule surgery many times but opportunities came up, so we pushed it back. The last two years we've been fighting less than 100 per cent. Since the surgery, there have been benefits. This has been the best camp we've had in a long time and that's why we're confident," Barry told SKY Sports UK.

"I know the troubles we've had in the gym, and the pain Joseph has had on a daily basis. How he has achieved the successes he has had is mind-boggling.

"The surgeon said: 'How was he able to perform at a world elite level?'

- Stuff


RE: Joshua vs Parker betting - shamrock - 03-24-2018

(03-24-2018, 09:47 AM)diehard Wrote: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/combat-sports/102555684/joseph-parker-to-anthony-joshua-youre-going-to-get-the-full-parker

Not altogether trustworthy, flakey truth im tinkin