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RE: Professional Boxing in NZ - bart - 09-30-2024
Yeah Messam is a part timer I think, he struggled with Nick the Greek skills and I wouldn't like to see him in with those bigger punchers.
He should stick to the corporate / cross code type match ups if he wants to keep fighting.
RE: Professional Boxing in NZ - jamieson2 - 10-01-2024
Even a short notice, heavyweight version of Charalampous showed the vast gulf in experience between the 2 & at 40 I don’t see Messam contending for world honours. There wasn’t much in that fight with Charalampous though & I think the draw verdict was fair. Messam carries some name recognition, that could help with promotion & he holds a win from a few years ago over Joe Ageli, who you could make a very good case for deserving the nod over Uila Mau'u in their fight on the Nyika vs Karpency card in September. The tournament would be winner advances, so if Messam can’t get by Charalampous he’d be out.
Patrick Mailata & Amato Mataika were set to fight each other on the Nyika vs Karpency card but it fell through. Mau'u & Ageli have history, Messam & Charalampous would be a rematch, Leutele is among our top heavies & Tuteru is a young up & comer. Throw in a bonus for knockouts. The winner also becomes an ideal rival for someone like Ahio.
Make the quarter finals over 6 rounds & put them on a Nyika undercard in Auckland.
The semi’s over 8 rounds & the final over 10 rounds.
RE: Professional Boxing in NZ - diehard - 10-01-2024
Somewhat unrelated, but where is Fa? Yeah, Messam is a club fighter who couldn't get past a fat Nik the Greek. I used to watch Nik a lot when the late Chris Martin used to train him. Ahio needs to get out of NZ and fight some international fights. He's avenged his loss, so it's time to move on.
RE: Professional Boxing in NZ - jamieson2 - 10-01-2024
(10-01-2024, 12:44 PM)diehard Wrote: Somewhat unrelated, but where is Fa? Yeah, Messam is a club fighter who couldn't get past a fat Nik the Greek. Ahio needs to get out of NZ and fight some international fights. He's avenged his loss, so it's time to move on.
Fa has retired. Messam showed his inexperience but neither fighter dominated the other. Some of the fighters (especially the winner of that type of tournament) would be competitive with Ahio.
RE: Professional Boxing in NZ - bart - 10-01-2024
I always like to back Kiwi fighters but I don't see Ahio doing well outside of Australasia, he is too small and too limited.
He could still get paydays as a B side on a decent card somewhere which would be handy for him.
I just don't know where he should be looking to head at this point... if he had a Commonweath title or something similar it could be used to barter a deal
RE: Professional Boxing in NZ - diehard - 10-01-2024
One of the best fighters in NZ was Steve Heremaia, trained by Martin. Unfortunately, I heard he gave it up and went back to gang behaviour, or so I heard. He was ranked #2 (I think) in one alphabet. Certainly top 10. Ahio could do well in some of the JP undercards if matched right. So sorry to hear about Fa, who I thought still had something to offer. His biggest loss was to Browne and Sanchez, who's top ten, or was anyway.
RE: Professional Boxing in NZ - diehard - 10-01-2024
https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/janibek-alimkhanuly-faces-andrei-mikhailovich-this-friday-on-espn/282680
RE: Professional Boxing in NZ - diehard - 10-02-2024
Friday, Oct. 4: Janibek Alimkhanuly-Andrei Mikhailovich (ESPN+)
The broadcast begins at 5 a.m. ET (10 a.m. BST).
The early start time is because Alimkhanuly-Mikhailovich is headlining at The Star in Sydney, Australia. Their fight was originally supposed to take place in July in the United States but was postponed when Alimkhanuly fainted while trying to make weight.
Alimkhanuly, a 2016 Olympian, is a unified middleweight titleholder in a division that is lacking in depth and star power. Saul “Canelo” Alvarez long ago departed. Gennadiy Golovkin is essentially retired. Jermall Charlo’s personal struggles have led to significant inactivity; he was finally stripped in May of the WBC belt, which he had last defended in 2021.
In that vacuum, Alimkhanuly was upgraded from interim to regular WBO titleholder in 2022 and then added the IBF belt in his past appearance – a unification win over Vincenzo Gualtieri nearly a year ago. The 31-year-old is originally from Kazakhstan, and now fights out of Oxnard, California. His record is 15-0 (10 KOs).
Only the IBF belt will be on the line. The WBO didn’t sanction Friday’s bout and will make its title vacant if Alimkhanuly loses.
Mikhailovich is a 26-year-old from Auckland, New Zealand, who is 21-0 (13 KOs). He’s coming off of a fifth-round TKO of the previously unbeaten Edisson Saltarin in April 2023 – a win that is less meaningful given Saltarin has since recorded three more defeats – and a 84-second TKO of Les Sherrington, a 39-17 foe, 12 months later.
The winner will hopefully move on to unification bouts against the likes of Carlos Adames (WBC) or Erislandy Lara (WBA), or defenses against rising contenders such as Hamzah Sheeraz.
RE: Professional Boxing in NZ - bart - 10-02-2024
Die I was trying to remember Heremias name the other day, yes he was very good- just bad timing that when he was around fights couldn't get made. He could have done well oerseas with his exciting style.
Shame if he just a gang member now
RE: Professional Boxing in NZ - diehard - 10-02-2024
Used to have some talks with Chris about him. Chris thought he could go far. I met him before the Tua/Cameron fight in Hamilton and he seemed a nice guy. Saw him fight in Auckland and he said 14 fighters turned him down before he fought. He was a KO artist. Chris had a way of getting boxers off the street and in the gym. Unfortunately, it didn't work out for Steve. The gang affiliation was many years ago, and hopefully he's moved on. I'll see if I can find something out about him, but I'm not around the Auckland boxing crowd like I used to be when I ran Tua's website.