Joseph Parker

[tm7]

I guess they meant Fujimoto?

[diehard]

I think Parker needs to fight guys in the top 5, or at least the top 10 to stay relevant. And then try to get in a position to challenge for the title again after a few wins. Flores was a one off to get his power and confidence back. Done. Now to the business end...

[shamrock]

(12-24-2018, 04:06 PM)diehard Wrote: I think Parker needs to fight guys in the top 5, or at least the top 10 to stay relevant.  And then try to get in a position to challenge for the title again after a few wins.  Flores was a one off to get his power and confidence back.  Done.  Now to the business end...

And showcase his new found dirty boxing finesse

[diehard]

(12-24-2018, 04:45 PM)shamrock Wrote:

(12-24-2018, 04:06 PM)diehard Wrote: I think Parker needs to fight guys in the top 5, or at least the top 10 to stay relevant.  And then try to get in a position to challenge for the title again after a few wins.  Flores was a one off to get his power and confidence back.  Done.  Now to the business end...

And showcase his new found dirty boxing finesse

Pitiful.  Whyte and Chisora fight on the margins of dirty as part of their M.O.  Parker just fought dirty.  He'll be able to get away with that against inferior opponents in NZ, but that won't wash elsewhere.  In other words, he'd have to think to do it whereas it's ingrained with guys like Whyte and Chisora.  Instead, Parker needs to focus on acquiring more power as he'll need it against better opponents.

Against Flores, I was really worried he was going to be DQ.  Sure, don't let opponents push you around, and make them pay when they do, but to set out to be dirty is just dumb.

[diehard]

oseph Parker holds firm in heavyweight rankings as Junior Fa steps up again
DUNCAN JOHNSTONE

He may have lost his WBO title but top Kiwi boxer Joseph Parker has done enough to stay in the heavyweight conversation.
Joseph Parker will finish a difficult year ranked No 5 with the WBC while fellow Kiwi heavyweight Junior Fa continues his rise with the WBO.

Parker's knockout win over unheralded Mexican-American Alexander Flores in Christchurch earlier in December maintained his position in the top five and kept him in the conversation among the elite fighters in the glamour division.

All the four major associations have updated their rankings for the last time in 2018.

Junior Fa's latest win has lifted him to No 9 with the WBO.
Parker started the year as the WBO champion but lost that belt in a unification fight with Anthony Joshua.

That points loss and his subsequent points defeat at the hands of Dillian Whyte saw him fall out of the rankings with everyone except the WBC who have maintained their faith in him.

Fa is the Kiwi courting the WBO now and continues to make progress.

He has moved up one place to No 9 on the back of his knockout win over Argentina's Rogelio Omar Rossi on the Parker undercard.

Joshua holds the WBA, WBO and IBF belts and Deontay Wilder the WBC version.

Tyson Fury was the big mover in the latest rankings, lifting to No 2 with the WBC on the back of his incredible draw with Wilder in Los Angeles in early December.

Whyte is No 1 with the WBC and WBO and desperate for a title shot, eager to line out against Joshua at Wembley in April if Joshua can't arrange a unification bout with Wilder.

Parker has Whyte, Fury, Cuban Luis Ortiz and American Dominic Breazeale in front of him at the WBC.

The independent rankings are always a good guide to the true value of fighters and the highly respected Ring magazine has Parker at No 7 behind Joshua, Fury, Wilder, Whyte, Ortiz and Russian Alexander Povetkin.

BoxRec, which keep tabs on 1261 active heavyweights, has Parker at No 10 with American Jarrell Miller and Bulgarian Kubrat Pulev ahead of him in an increasingly competitive division.

Fa is ranked No 57 by BoxRec.

[diehard]

I knew it was coming...

Flores camp rips Parker, NZ Commission (Fight News Website)

Roy Jones, Jr. Boxing CEO-Co-Founder Keith Veltre has slammed the Professional Boxing Commission New Zealand (PBCNZ) regarding the Joseph Parker vs. Alexander “The Great” Flores heavyweight fight, held earlier this month, due to Parker’s low blows resulting in Flores being knocked out in the third round.

“As excited as we were for Flores to face-off against Parker,” Veltre said, “we are equally disappointed with Parker’s dirty antics. It was clear that the referee not only favored Parker, but he also lacked enough knowledge to be officiating in the ring. Cleary, though, the New Zealand commission is just as inexperienced with high-caliber fights like this. If it wants to continue pursuing larger fights, then I would suggest it makes sure there is an equal playing field in New Zealand for all foreign fighters.”

Upset-minded Flores (17-2-1, 15 KOs), fighting out of Rowland Heights, California, traveled to the home country of Parker (25-2, 19 KOs) to challenge the former World Boxing Organization (WBO) heavyweight world champion, in front of three Kiwi judges and a New Zealand referee, John Conway.

“Coming into this fight,” Flores said, “I was excited and prepared for the opportunity to fight Joseph Parker. My vision of how it would play out was nothing that I could have ever expected. I heard Joe speaking in pre-fight interviews about hitting me in the balls or using his elbows, but I really thought he was talking about his experience with Dillian Whyte, and I never expected him to use those tactics with me. I have never been a dirty fighter, so, in my training for this fight, getting hit in the groin area or getting his forearm in my face was not something that ever crossed my mind.

“After reading articles it is clear to me that this was premeditated. When the fight started, the referee clearly stated that we were at belt-line and anything below that would be considered low. I noticed early on that he was hitting me low and I tried to get the referee’s attention. I don’t remember the exact number, but it was consistent whenever we would get inside and exchange.

“I have never been hit in the groin like that and there was an evident welt in that area. After the referee warned him in the corner, it was already after I had been the beneficiary of several low blows. It can be a serious problem when you’re hit in that area because, mentally, you feel like you need to protect a larger area. After that warning, he went straight to the well and hit me hard to the groin. I dropped my hand to cover my groin area and he hit me hard, knocking me down with a shot that I never recovered from. Even after the blatant low blow that knocked me down, I was shocked that the ref did not see it. This should have amounted to a disqualification, or point deduction, and time for me to recover.

“I heard that some people were saying that the low blows were irrelevant because that was not the shot that finished the fight, but that’s from people who’ve never been knocked down and tried to recover from a knockdown. I never recovered from the low-blow knockdown. Joe quickly jumped on me with the shots needed to finish the fight.

“Looking back, I could have never imagined that he would resort to these tactics to win the fight, and I believe this left a black mark on the sport of boxing. I was knocked out to end the fight in a way that could have resulted in serious injury due to clear referee negligence.”

[shamrock]

(01-01-2019, 11:55 AM)diehard Wrote: I knew it was coming...

Flores camp rips Parker, NZ Commission (Fight News Website)

Roy Jones, Jr. Boxing CEO-Co-Founder Keith Veltre has slammed the Professional Boxing Commission New Zealand (PBCNZ) regarding the Joseph Parker vs. Alexander “The Great” Flores heavyweight fight, held earlier this month, due to Parker’s low blows resulting in Flores being knocked out in the third round.

“As excited as we were for Flores to face-off against Parker,” Veltre said, “we are equally disappointed with Parker’s dirty antics. It was clear that the referee not only favored Parker, but he also lacked enough knowledge to be officiating in the ring. Cleary, though, the New Zealand commission is just as inexperienced with high-caliber fights like this. If it wants to continue pursuing larger fights, then I would suggest it makes sure there is an equal playing field in New Zealand for all foreign fighters.”

Upset-minded Flores (17-2-1, 15 KOs), fighting out of Rowland Heights, California, traveled to the home country of Parker (25-2, 19 KOs) to challenge the former World Boxing Organization (WBO) heavyweight world champion, in front of three Kiwi judges and a New Zealand referee, John Conway.

“Coming into this fight,” Flores said, “I was excited and prepared for the opportunity to fight Joseph Parker. My vision of how it would play out was nothing that I could have ever expected. I heard Joe speaking in pre-fight interviews about hitting me in the balls or using his elbows, but I really thought he was talking about his experience with Dillian Whyte, and I never expected him to use those tactics with me. I have never been a dirty fighter, so, in my training for this fight, getting hit in the groin area or getting his forearm in my face was not something that ever crossed my mind.

“After reading articles it is clear to me that this was premeditated. When the fight started, the referee clearly stated that we were at belt-line and anything below that would be considered low. I noticed early on that he was hitting me low and I tried to get the referee’s attention. I don’t remember the exact number, but it was consistent whenever we would get inside and exchange.

“I have never been hit in the groin like that and there was an evident welt in that area. After the referee warned him in the corner, it was already after I had been the beneficiary of several low blows. It can be a serious problem when you’re hit in that area because, mentally, you feel like you need to protect a larger area. After that warning, he went straight to the well and hit me hard to the groin. I dropped my hand to cover my groin area and he hit me hard, knocking me down with a shot that I never recovered from. Even after the blatant low blow that knocked me down, I was shocked that the ref did not see it. This should have amounted to a disqualification, or point deduction, and time for me to recover.

“I heard that some people were saying that the low blows were irrelevant because that was not the shot that finished the fight, but that’s from people who’ve never been knocked down and tried to recover from a knockdown. I never recovered from the low-blow knockdown. Joe quickly jumped on me with the shots needed to finish the fight.

“Looking back, I could have never imagined that he would resort to these tactics to win the fight, and I believe this left a black mark on the sport of boxing. I was knocked out to end the fight in a way that could have resulted in serious injury due to clear referee negligence.”

Totally agree

[diehard]

Why oh why??? To tell the whole world that Joe hasn't been dirty enough, and you plan to be dirty in your next fight with Flores. And then to do it. KB is a moron. Lucky Joe didn't get disqualified. Feel bad for Rebel getting tangled up in this, as he's a good and ethical ref. Except he should have warned Joe the very first time, and taken away points the second, which may have led to a DQ if Joe continued as he did and KO'd Flores.

Would have hated that, as I'm with Parker all the way. But stupid and dirty boxing is a no-no.

[shamrock]

(01-01-2019, 01:45 PM)diehard Wrote: Why oh why???  To tell the whole world that Joe hasn't been dirty enough, and you plan to be dirty in your next fight with Flores.  And then to do it.  KB is a moron.  Lucky Joe didn't get disqualified.  Feel bad for Rebel getting tangled up in this, as he's a good and ethical ref.  Except he should have warned Joe the very first time, and taken away points the second, which may have led to a DQ if Joe continued as he did and KO'd Flores.

Would have hated that, as I'm with Parker all the way.  But stupid and dirty boxing is a no-no.

No role model

[Infern0]

Stupidity from parker in that fight, bringing back the "mongrol" means marching to center ring and letting your hands go, not cheap shotting and fighting dirty