10-31-2016, 09:59 PM
(10-31-2016, 09:54 PM)Msreef Wrote:(10-31-2016, 09:34 PM)Infern0 Wrote:(10-28-2016, 04:14 PM)Msreef Wrote: I'd favor Wilder because he's faced better opposition. Probably 60/40.
Other than Stiverne (which is debatable because he was sick) the competition has been pretty equal.
And wilder has looked WAY worse than joshua against that level of competition.
Let's review:
Knocked down by a "check jab" off 400lb obese patient dustin "worm" nichols 4-10-0
Knocked down for 16 seconds by bum Harold sconiers 18-27-0 (23% ko ratio) saved by referee long count (all footage sized and destroyed by hbo)
Destroyed in sparring by klitschko and sent home early
KO'd by David haye in sparring and sent home early
Paid personal friend Malik Scott to take a dive
Had both eyes closed and was out jabbed by bum duhaupas
Was rocked badly and took 9 rounds to finish molina
Got given a boxing lesson by Polish football hooligan Arthur spilka before landing a lucky haymaker with his eyes closed
Let's compare that to Joshua's bad form...
Buzzed by a haye maker off ddillian Whyte
Yeah I think AJ has more than 40% chance.
I'd even favor parker over wilder
Regardless of Wilders flaws, he is still the champion, he still beat all the guys that you stated above. The competition is far from equal between the two. Wilder has beaten opponents that are proven at a certain level. AJ has fought three guys who had fought next to nobody.
AJ may turn out to be a monster even against the top 10 of the division, but until he fights a decent opponent we can only speculate how good he is. Molina isn't a bad fight, at least we will get an accurate gauge of how good AJ is against a proven top 30 opponent.
Can you tell me what guys at a certain level?
Are we talking about Malik Scott (stopped by shot chisora)
Audley Harrison?
Spilka who has good wins against.....um..
No really, what guys and what level?
I mean Charles Martin beat glazkov and breazele beat Mansour so we know those two aren't complete rubbish
Really I struggle to see a name on Wilders resume that is leagues above joshua
Wilder has also been pro for 4 more years.
Imo wilder and Joshua both have crap resumes but joshua has looked a lot more impressive against the cans he's fought than wilder has against the cans he's fought.