Joseph Parker

[gothenaki]

David Haye wouldn't want Parker. He wants another tune-up against a 20-50 ranked opponent, (De Mori wasn't even top 100) then the massive payday that is Josuhua at Wembley.

Parker is stepping up in April, and a few of us are hoping it's Takam. That would be a good fight.
Jamieson - Kassi would be a good choice, because he's a durable, tricky switch-hitter, and doesn't know how to win a decision

[shamrock]

Thanks Jamieson I totally agree. But the majority of this site seem to disagree. I would certainly keep JP away from these top echelon fighters in the interim, he hasn't reached preparation mode yet as you said.

[Jamieson]

(01-18-2016, 05:23 PM)gothenaki Wrote: David Haye wouldn't want Parker. He wants another tune-up against a 20-50 ranked opponent, (De Mori wasn't even top 100) then the massive payday that is Josuhua at Wembley.

Parker is stepping up in April, and a few of us are hoping it's Takam. That would be a good fight.
Jamieson - Kassi would be a good choice, because he's a durable, tricky switch-hitter, and doesn't know how to win a decision

To be fair Haye was out for 3 years. He ain't Leonard or Ali so I'll give him a bye here. That was a fantastic turn out though for the level of opponent.

Lets just wait and see what happens in April. Takam would be a giant step up!

Don't you mean the judges don't know how to score?

[gothenaki]

(01-18-2016, 05:37 PM)Jamieson Wrote: To be fair Haye was out for 3 years. He ain't Leonard or Ali so I'll give him a bye here. That was a fantastic turn out though for the level of opponent.

Lets just wait and see what happens in April. Takam would be a giant step up!

Don't you mean the judges don't know how to score?

Agreed Haye selling out the O2 and having such great support was an eye-opener. The Joshua fight will be huge.Fighting De Mori was fine, my comment was more aimed at him. 

Kassi was unlucky against Arreola, but the 100-90 scorecard for Brezeale is possibly the worst I've ever seen. If you ever see John Westeterp judge another fight - look out!

Takam would be a massive step up, considering he's beaten TT, drew with Mike Perez, and put on a great show against Povetkin, but it would put JP in a great position for the belt guarded by Martin, who is obviously the weakest of the belt holders.

Sham, I understand your concerns, and would be happy to see him fight Kassi, Arreola (except he refused) etc, but that IBF carrot is throwing the cat amongst the pigeons. Do you think Martin beats JP?

[Jamieson]

Sure a lot of these guys turned down offers from team Parker to travel to NZ, but many are fighting on free to air TV in their own countries and making similar money without having to travel. Also each team has their own strategies and may have already mapped out a plan.

Did Parker's team negotiate or offer to travel to an opponents backyard? Doubt it. Duco is a small fish and doesn't want to give up any control just yet.

Parker turned down a spot on the Canelo/ Cotto card, so should we jump to the conclusion that he is worried about traveling? That would be silly.

Two sides to every story.

Martin and Parker are in the same boat. Both inexperienced with a lack of quality opposition. I could see either guy winning. I'd favour Parker but I haven't seen either guy in with anyone credible yet so who knows?

Is Cunningham still with Haymon? He might get to Martin first...

[diehard]

Cunningham has moved down to cruiser, last I heard. Parker will fight someone ranked in the top 10-20 in April, maybe Takam, but an inference that Stu said on his website makes me think it's not him. Then they get an eliminator for the IBF in July for the right to face Martin, if he's still the champ, later in the year. That's the plan, as near as I can tell.

Forget Arreola, Kassi, etc. Team Parker is thru fighting to be fighting and learning after Martz and Bergman. Full speed ahead after Bergman. Is he ready? I think so. But neither he or AJ have fought someone in the top 10 yet. Hopefully, if all goes to plan, we find out in April.

Fury will get KO'd by Klit. Klit will then retire, leaving Martin and Wilder. Martin will be first up for Parker as KB and Team Parker tries to force the fight after/if Parker wins the eliminator. That's what my crystal ball says.

[shamrock]

To be honest Goth I didnt see the Martin fight so I cant venture an opinion. A strong nz boxing identity suggested to me just a few days ago he considered Jo as vunerable to being upset badly when he actually does stepup as his record is propped with mismatches and public deceiving agendas. It was also stated as coming from Klits coach that Izu was the superior fighter in the Duco stable and produced better tactical sparring than Jo did.

With me its hearsay, I cant actually say except we will find out perhaps later in the year.

[NakiFan]

We'll know a bit more post Bergman, I'm hoping it'll be Takam as it puts him closer to fighting Martin. I'd agree after watching a few of those HW fights lately that JP needs a few top 25 fights under him to really be ready, but I'm sure if an opportunity came up within the year they'd take it.

Why not take it? He's young, he himself said that he wants to retire from boxing at 31...this doesn't leave him much time. If he gets a crack, puts on a good show, wins or gets defeated, there will be other chances. The market dictates if fights get put on, and if the boxing fans like what they see, those attractive fighters get more chances.

Nowdays fighters tend to want to hold onto their 0 records too much without testing themselves...and the trouble is, like Wilder, the alphabets allow it.

[diehard]

NZ boxer Joseph Parker says new IBF world champ Charles Martin isn't special video

Rising Kiwi fighter Joseph Parker insists new IBF world champion Charles Martin "isn't anything special".

New Zealand heavyweight boxer Joseph Parker is sure he is on the right path to a world title after watching American Charles Martin claim the vacant IBF belt in New York on Sunday.

In Samoa preparing for his fight with American southpaw Jason Bergman in Apia on Saturday, the unbeaten Kiwi watched on as Martin claimed the title when Ukranian opponent Vyacheslav Glazkov had to retire in the third round with a knee injury.

Parker, who has powered his way to a 17-0 record, is the seventh-ranked IBF contender and said the win for 23-0 southpaw Martin fully justified the decision for the born and raised South Aucklander's first professional bout against a left-handed fighter this weekend.

Joseph Parker says Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder are bringing excitement back to the heavyweight division.

"Charles Martin, we watched him," Parker said. "He won the IBF championship of the world, but we don't think he is anything special.

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"Fighting a southpaw here in Samoa was definitely the right decision. We are heading in the right direction after seeing what they did in the ring."

Also ranked No 3 with the WBO, No 10 with the WBC and No 12 with the WBA, 24-year-old Parker and his camp have expressed a desire to become the No 1 contender and mandatory challenger in one of those divisions in 2016.

Parker's trainer Kevin Barry said he was very satisfied with where they sat ahead of the fight with 25-11-2 Bergman, the world's No 11-ranked southpaw according to respected boxing website BoxRec.

"Guys don't get to be heavyweight champions of the world without having a lot of skill and a lot of ability," Barry said.

"I like that path we are on at the moment, I like the progress Joseph has shown me. I think we are in a very good, solid position, but we do have work to do."

On the same card that Martin won the IBF title on Sunday, American WBC world champion Deontay Wilder defended his title with a huge ninth round knockout of Poland's Artur Szpilka.

British WBO and WBA belt holder Tyson Fury stormed the ring and engaged in some verbal sparring with Wilder after the bout, which Parker enjoyed.

"Having these characters in the heavyweight division is definitely going to give us a lot more attention," he said.

"I believe it is going to bring more excitement to the heavyweight division."

Fury beat long-standing world heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko of the Ukraine to claim the two belts he has, along with the IBF belt, at the end of November last year.

However, the Englishman was forced to vacate the IBF title when he agreed to a rematch with Klitschko, rather than fighting mandatory contender Glazkov.

- Stuff

[gothenaki]

(01-18-2016, 06:38 PM)shamrock Wrote: To be honest Goth I didnt see the Martin fight so I cant venture an opinion. A strong nz boxing identity suggested to me just a few days ago he considered Jo as vunerable to being upset badly when he actually does stepup as his record is propped with mismatches and public deceiving agendas. It was also stated as coming from Klits coach that Izu was the superior fighter in the Duco stable and produced better tactical sparring than Jo did.

With me its hearsay, I cant actually say except we will find out perhaps later in the year.

Izu has looked like a total beast, so I'll take that as good news. He totally smashed the guy that Martin took 3 rounds to despatch.
Also Izu could have been totally relaxed, while JP could well have been amped and thinking "this is the man!" and trying to prove himself rather than following the tactical instructions that sparring partners are given.

I don't see it as "public deceiving", as they say "it's all in the game"
He's doing nothing different from every other heavy, and has been brought along at the same speed as pretty much anyone who wants to contend for a title. Look what happened to David Price when he took on TT for his 16th fight.

Wilder looks vulnerable every fight. He holds a belt and someone has to take it from him. Ditto Martin.

As you say, we will find out, and I'm looking forward to it immensely.