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That's the attitude, NakiFan! Yes, people will pay, or they wouldn't keep charging the $40. I think it should be $25, but the what the hell. What I wish more is that they had an awesome undercard, that they would announce in advance. So if Parker KO's someone in a round or two, at least we get a great nite of boxing.
Parker had to fight a Bergman type of southpaw. Do we really want him to go in against Thompson, and potentially get ko'd from a punch he never saw coming? Or worse, fight Fury or Martin unprepared for a southpaw? Remember, Tua fought Coffee in his 17th fight.
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Why does everybody keep banging on about Cecil Coffee as Tua's 17th opponent? This is Parkers 18th fight.
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(01-16-2016, 09:50 AM)NakiFan Wrote: (01-16-2016, 12:14 AM)craigyid14 Wrote: Parker is 1/100 favourite, with skybet. How can they expect punters to pay $40ppv? With circus act buttabean main support and no news of the rest of the undercard.....
The thing is craig, people will pay. I'm not sure in the numbers like the Meehan fight or Tupou fight, due to the lack of knowledge of the undercard fighters. Whenever I book up a fight, a number of friends come around, providing beer and snacks for a seat around the TV, so it definitely offsets the cost. I like to think that (regardless of how much money goes where), that my cash is helping a talented fighter work his way to a chance of getting a HW title.
If JP was English, his road would much easier than a boy from NZ...
And if i was invited around a mates house to watch it Id bring a box, but theres no getting away from the fact its a poor show. Not sure where your going with the 'if he was English'? Winning a lonsdale belt outright means boxers have real competative fights very early with a huge amount of pressure. Alot thougher than a tomato can being shipped over because he fancies a payday and week with the family on a beach on a Pacific paradise island.
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(01-16-2016, 01:48 PM)craigyid14 Wrote: (01-16-2016, 09:50 AM)NakiFan Wrote: (01-16-2016, 12:14 AM)craigyid14 Wrote: Parker is 1/100 favourite, with skybet. How can they expect punters to pay $40ppv? With circus act buttabean main support and no news of the rest of the undercard.....
The thing is craig, people will pay. I'm not sure in the numbers like the Meehan fight or Tupou fight, due to the lack of knowledge of the undercard fighters. Whenever I book up a fight, a number of friends come around, providing beer and snacks for a seat around the TV, so it definitely offsets the cost. I like to think that (regardless of how much money goes where), that my cash is helping a talented fighter work his way to a chance of getting a HW title.
If JP was English, his road would much easier than a boy from NZ...
And if i was invited around a mates house to watch it Id bring a box, but theres no getting away from the fact its a poor show. Not sure where your going with the 'if he was English'? Winning a lonsdale belt outright means boxers have real competative fights very early with a huge amount of pressure. Alot thougher than a tomato can being shipped over because he fancies a payday and week with the family on a beach on a Pacific paradise island.
I mentioned if he was English, because...
(1) If JP fought a PPV similar to the Whyte vs Joshua fight, the whole organisation would have more cash to create matchups they wanted.
(2) A bigger fanbase, more exposure = better opportunities
(3) Closer to the European market and more fighters willing to travel within the EU.
Yes the pressure would be there, but if managed correctly the opportunities outweigh the negatives.
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I reckon if Parker was English he would have had it much tougher, here his opponents have been hand picked, yes some good heavies with good credentials but each opponent has been weighed up by his management and promotional team. Not sure what kind of backing he would have got in the UK, especially having not even medalled at the Commonwealth games.
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Parker wouldn't be where he is today without Duco, KB, and Stu. And Parker's dedication. With them All In, he made the most of it. Not sure that would have happened, a small team dedicated to Joe, would have happened in the UK.
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Joseph Parker takes left-hand turn in road to heavyweight title shot
Joseph Parker faces his first southpaw opponent in Samoa on Saturday.
As Joseph Parker prepares to face his first southpaw opponent in Jason Bergman – a test he is expected to pass with minimum fuss – it is events on the other side of the world that underlie the importance of next week's bout in Samoa.
Sunday afternoon (NZ time) in New York, Deontay Wilder puts his WBC heavyweight title on the line against Poland's Artur Szpilka – a southpaw. On the same card another lefty, American Charles Martin, vies for the IBF belt with Ukrainian Vyacheslav Glazkov.
Throw in highly-rated southpaw Luis Ortiz and it is more likely than not Parker's road to a title shot could include a few left-hand turns at some stage.
It is something the Kiwi-Samoan is acutely aware of as he enters the biggest year of his career to date.
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Parker, who touched down in Apia for the 'Rumble in Paradise' on Saturday, has gone as far as organising a local television channel to broadcast Sunday's fight so he can keep track of any future opponents.
"We're hoping to contend for those belts someday in the near future," Parker said. "I want to keep a close eye on these heavyweight fighters who are fighting for the championship, see what they do in the ring and hopefully we can fight them.
"It's good to start somewhere," he said of 31-year-old American Bergman, who has 11 losses in 38 fights. "I'm not saying Jason's not a good fighter, I'm just saying at this time of my career it's the perfect place to start and the perfect opponent at this time."
Parker has made no secret that facing a southpaw does not come naturally to him.
It's unlikely to stop him extending his record to 18-0 on Saturday, with any difficulties he has adjusting to Bergman's style offset by his superior size, speed and strength.
But it is something the 24-year-old has to master if he is serious about moving into a mandatory challenger position by the end of the year.
"I've struggled with southpaws in the past as an amateur. It's a bit different moving to your left.
"Sometimes when I'm moving to my left I go back to thinking that I'm fighting orthodox and start moving to my right which is pretty dangerous as you're walking into his left hand. So I just have to stay focused."
Extremely proud of his Samoan heritage, Parker's fight next week's fight holds added importance as he showcases his skills at the birthplace of his parents, Dempsey and Sala, for the first time.
There are going to be plenty of people vying for his time and he'll be relying heavily on his team to keep distractions to a minimum.
"There's a lot more family [in Samoa], a lot more friends and a lot of them might want to hang out and chill but we've got to focus. A lot of them will all come to the hotel and knock on your door and try to hang out in the room or whatever."
It's part of the reason he has labelled the Bergman bout one of the biggest mental challenges of his career, along with learning a new style and the fact his training camp was disrupted by elbow and lower-back injuries.
But one he's confident of living up to.
"I'm ready. I'm a bit hurt here and there but all of that's going to disappear in Samoa. I'm focused on doing my thing and doing my best when I'm in the ring."
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He'll be right come fight night... Im hoping he'll KO him with a left hook. Really want to see him develop this off his overhand right.
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Exciting times. JP needs fight David Haye now for credibility, JP said himself he is ready for Wilder Fury and Klit. I see the focus in British circles is on Haye Vs Joshua. Joshua says he is not yet ready for the bigtime, that is Wilder, Fury or Klit., I expect he's taking sound advice or has a wise head on young shoulders.
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(01-18-2016, 04:21 PM)shamrock Wrote: Exciting times. JP needs fight David Haye now for credibility, JP said himself he is ready for Wilder Fury and Klit. I see the focus in British circles is on Haye Vs Joshua. Joshua says he is not yet ready for the bigtime, that is Wilder, Fury or Klit., I expect he's taking sound advice or has a wise head on young shoulders.
Nice one Sham. I'm thinking Haye has bigger fish to fry than Parker.
Parker thinks he's ready for the top 3? Confidence is great but has his opposition really helped develop him?
His team has done well to maneuver him safely to where he's at but I think he should sit back a bit and wait for things to clear up a bit (Fury/ Wlad II, Wilder/ Povetkin, Chagaev/ Brown/ Oquendo if he still has a contracted shot) while getting experience against some actual gatekeeper types like Arreola, Kassi, Thompson or challenge himself against the likes of Mansour or Cunningham.
A loss could set him back but not learning and developing against better competition could see him in the same light as Wilder and Martin are seen: Vulnerable.
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