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RE: Joseph Parker - shamrock - 11-12-2015

Fai nice to see you again, me n stormy going out busking again later. Made $3.60 last time, better than nothing ah mate.. my turn to sing

RE: Joseph Parker - gothenaki - 11-12-2015

This is from Stu Duncan over on checkhookboxing, where he goes under the name Crunch;

"Guys while i am not going to waste my time getting into a debate with individuals about our selection of opponents ... take the following into consideration;

Parker will be the 7th undefeated opponent Martz has faced in his 17 fight career to date
Martz is the youngest and biggest opponent Parker has faced - standing 6'7 1/2 tall and enters the ring at an average of 250lbs.
With the top 15 littered with talls - Martz being 6'7 1/2 put him in favorable consideration

Joe wanted to fight in his nation of birth & we decided to squeeze it in on Jan 23rd. There is only 67 southpaws in the heavyweight division with most rated outside BoxRecs top 150. Considering Joe has never fought a lefty - we wanted jeramiah karpency who is 12-0 however Jeramiah suffered a neck injury and wasnt going to be available for this date. Bergman's record is deceiving in that despite his multiple losses - he has only lost twice in his last 18 outings. This fight is in Samoa - theres not a big gate - nor does the event attract sponsorship that usually comes with these events - so the budget is lower. Do we want Ortiz - Charles or even the tricky Tony Thompson for his first southpaw? the answer is no - plain and simple .. we will see how Joe handles Bergman and look at one of those guys or other during the course of 2016. (being mindful that the Samoan promotion couldn't support the purse of a top 15 rated type of southpaw)

In finishing on this subject - I have an active database comprising the BoxRec top 160 heavyweights which i work from. i will give you some rough stats from this data base. 9 of them are in contention & wouldnt consider travelling to fight Joe while they are awaiting their shot at the title or an eliminator. 60 of the top 160 we consider would be mismatches and havent approached them. We have however offered over 15 of the top 15 rated boxers from across the 4 main sanctioning bodies a shot at Joe - all with good money attached to them. Further to this we have offered a fight to 58 others within the top 160 .. do your math and you will see the picking are reduced to a small quantity. There are 3 or 4 who are on the radar for 2016 as Joes team feel he will be ready for them - extremely tough challenges. While I refuse to go into the name & shame game as i feel that is classless - we have made efforts to secure Duhaupass (pre Wilder) and Wach (pre Povetkin) and others like Arnold Gjerjaj and many other quality opponents to no avail.

So when you take everything into consideration - Martz in my opinion is every bit as good as Saglam - Pettaway - Beato Costa Jr but younger bigger and stronger. He is a willing participant and didnt need to be asked twice - as i say Joe will be the 7th undefeated opponent he has faced and when you consider Floyd faced 3 in his 49 fight career - he's a game character who make no mistakes is coming to fight and for mine will put up a stiffer test than anyone Joe has fought in 2015. I hope this goes someway to explaining our selection process which is a difficult job at best."

RE: Joseph Parker - shamrock - 11-12-2015

Hmm did I read this before?

RE: Joseph Parker - Westywarrior - 11-12-2015

Stu Duncan says Martz - 'will put up a stiffer test than anyone Joe has fought in 2015'

Give me a break. If that Martz-Young bout is anything to go by Martz would easily be the worst opponent Joe has faced this year. Compared to Joe this guy is a novice and a complete bum

I understand Joe has to have these pot boiler, get experience Type matchups against lesser guys
But I hate it when people try and hype these opponents up as something they aint

RE: Joseph Parker - NakiFan - 11-12-2015

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I can understand the need for Joseph to fight bigger men, but this quick clip shows a Martz employing low hands that is often his go-to technique during the youtube fights I've viewed. While I'm a very novice boxing fan, can someone with more experience give me their take on Martz technique in terms of using his natural height and range?

RE: Joseph Parker - diehard - 11-12-2015

Sham and others, thanks for the compliments. And welcome back Kiwi. Wondered when you might have left the bar. Sham has a way of drinking guys under the table, then slipping out and leaving the tab to whoever he's drinking. He's Irish. Reason why Stormy hasn't shown up yet.

Yeah, I think Stu Duncan (aka Crunch) said it all.

RE: Joseph Parker - Kiwi - 11-12-2015

Drinking is definitely not my excuse, Diehard.

But thanks.

I just watched Martz on Youtube. Oh man.

I agree - he sadly is a Tomato can opponent. But for JP you can see it makes sense at only 16 pro bouts.

2016 will be better

-Kiwi

RE: Joseph Parker - diehard - 11-12-2015

That's great to hear, kiwi. I do worry about some of these guys and gals on the booze. Good to see that you can be a positive influence on here. I won't mention names...and you are absolutely right. Some of the guys and gals on here say Parker is rubbish, and then complain that he hasn't faced anyone good. But you're right, come 20 fights, he'll need to step it up. Look at Tua's record, and the opponents he fought before his 20th fight. Much worse opponents than Parker.

RE: Joseph Parker - shamrock - 11-12-2015

Thanks for your compliments too die. Funnily enough I dont drink anymore, the reason I skip out my friend is I leave it to people like yourself to bring better and sophisticated analysis then I am capable of. Plenty of real boxing analysts on the forum, best theres been.
Stormy might return when I tell him the site is upgraded.

RE: Joseph Parker - shamrock - 11-12-2015

Die, please be mindful this is an opinion site, the problem with most I think is after Meehan Jo seems to be going backward instead of forward. The point being we gathered around with the Meehan fight and Jo showed him his age limits...BUT, we are losing interest again..

The point I make is, never mind about what Davey Rocket Tua did, I cant see what fighting a guy as bad as Martz is going to do for Jo Parker, he has better sparring partners than this guy.

Be kind and agree to disagree if you must, but allow the other point of view. Oh, pass the weed please fai...