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RE: Parker vs Whyte - bopman - 07-30-2018
Potential wise Joe still has a shit load to improve and he has the attributes every coach wants. KB just hasn't got it the best out of him. Joe has become super conservative when stepping up and that's his shitty coaches fight strategies lol. Time for a new coaching team that can rebuild his brand. For too long we have seen our guy go out and not pull the trigger. This fight was so close and there for the taking but he came in outta shape and not ready to put it all on the line because he's scared of gassing out.
RE: Parker vs Whyte - bopman - 07-30-2018
New coach, new training methods, techniques and most of all new mindset.
RE: Parker vs Whyte - U.K. Fight Fan - 07-30-2018
Parker got beat by an average fighter. That's it. You can say he could of done this and could of done that but he just isn't that good. He doesn't punch properly and never has. There was times where he was just getting outjabbed by whyte. Whtyel
RE: Parker vs Whyte - U.K. Fight Fan - 07-30-2018
U. K BABY!!!!
RE: Parker vs Whyte - African Monkey - 07-30-2018
He was getting out-headbutted too. Can't believe Parker's team aren't kicking up a stink about it, it's as if they don't care and are happy to take a loss and run with their money. Could you imagine Eddie Hearn letting it go just like that?
No wonder why Wilder won't fight Whyte over there. He'll probably lose via spear tackle.
RE: Parker vs Whyte - tm7 - 07-30-2018
Even if KB was the best trainer in the world, JP just needs to hear a new voice and get a different perspective or he’ll never improve
RE: Parker vs Whyte - diehard - 07-30-2018
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/combat-sports/105847169/battered-joseph-parker-wants-to-fight-again-soon-as-his-love-for-sport-undimmed
BTW, I don't know why KB thinks points need to be deducted for the headbutt. Parker was just as guilty, if not more so, for it occurring, as his head was lower and more pointed at Whyte. That's boxing. If Parker doesn't like the rough stuff, find another sport.
Parker has above average talent, makes novice mistakes, and little power. KB is an average trainer, at best. For him to get the WBO belt, and defend it twice, and go 12 rounds with AJ and Whyte is massive.
RE: Parker vs Whyte - bopman - 07-30-2018
Hahahahaha UK baby love it!!!! Dilllian deserved thatbwin big time!!!
RE: Parker vs Whyte - diehard - 07-30-2018
Opinion divided as British heavyweight hotshots weigh in on Joseph Parker's future
MARC HINTON in London
Dillian Whyte is victorious over Joseph Parker after a thrilling heavyweight fight at London's O2 Arena.
Opinions vary between British heavyweight boxing's two men of the moment about the future of Joseph Parker after the Kiwi crashed to a potentially career-destabilising second straight defeat at London's O2 Arena on Sunday (NZT).
According to 34-year-old rejuvenated Londoner Dereck Chisora, who scored a stunning upset knockout victory over France's Carlos Takam in the undercard headliner at a rollicking O2, Parker is done. Finchley's finest reckoned the Kiwi has lost the fire in his belly after securing a couple of big paydays that have earned him in the region of $10-12 million, for his failed unification bout against Anthony Joshua and then his marquee matchup against Dillian Whyte on this card.
"He's a fighter, but when he chucks his jab his hands are down," said an ebullient Chisora at his post-fight press conference when asked where Parker now sat in the pecking order of the top heavyweights after his unanimous points defeat, and career-first twin knockdowns (the first highly dubious). "He was not motivated for this fight. I think when he made money from the Joshua fight he kinda forgot about boxing basically.
"That's the guy I saw in there. The things he done in the AJ fight he was not doing in there. He looked in great shape, but he didn't have it.
"I think Parker is not going to fight again. You think I'm talking crap, don't you? He's a good man but I don't think he'll be fighting again. He don't want to train any more. He hasn't got that hunger."
But Whyte, who said he was pushed to the limit by Parker, said Chisora was "talking rubbish" and predicted more was to come from the hard-hitting Kiwi-Samoan.
"Joseph Parker is young, he's strong, he's intelligent, very experienced and he's fresh and hungry," said Whyte who rated the victory one of the best of his career as it puts him int he frame for a shot at Joshua's trio of belts.
Dillian Whyte says he has a ton of respect for Joseph Parker and believes the Kiwi will bounce back in the heavyweight division.
"He made a hell of a lot of money before this fight, and to come back and put on a show like he did ... he got put down and got up and still believed. He's got a massive future in the heavyweight division.
"Two decent wins and he's back in top contention again. I've got a lot of respect for him. He's got a very good jab, but he just seemed to fall apart in the latter stages. In saying that, he put me down in the last round. I believe he got a very big future, and Dereck Chisora is just talking rubbish.
Whyte's view is certainly closer to the reality than Chisora's. Parker is not done and every indication is he's motivated to get back to the top of the division. But it is going to take some time, and he will have to be prepared to take some lesser-money, lower-tier fights to restore his reputation and work his way back into the conversation.
Can Joseph Parker get up off the canvas? Veteran British heavyweight Dereck Chisora doesn't think so.
Matchroom promoter Eddie Hearn predicted it would be tough for Parker to battle back into the heavyweight reckoning.
"With the money Parker's made, he can live a wonderful life. It's going to take some real hunger to want it again, coming back for small purses.
"He's a fighter, but the problem is when you make that type of money, as Marvin Hagler said, it's very difficult to get up and do your hill sprints when you're wearing silk pyjamas.
"It comes down to how much you want it. When he goes back to New Zealand and counts his money, you go 'do I want to build back?' [But] the 12th round kinda saved him because with another 30 seconds he could have had Whyte. He lost but people will be saying 'we'll have Parker back'."
Parker's promoter David Higgins was confident he could find appropriate fights for his charge after he lost "in the best possible way", but ultimately it came down to the boxer having to make that decision.
"Chisora was criticised for taking a few losses and look what he did here. People had written him off. Klitschko had three losses before his 10-year reign as world champion. Whether we're done yet is up to Joseph Parker. I haven't heard anything to suggest he's changing his plan to fight on to age 30-31."
Marc Hinton travelled to London with assistance from Duco Events.
RE: Parker vs Whyte - faimoko - 07-30-2018
(07-29-2018, 08:16 PM)Infern0 Wrote:(07-29-2018, 07:25 PM)Ibeabuchi Wrote: First of all that commentary team was a disgrace, especially Bellew, who since knocking out the ghost of David Haye has become an insufferable blowhard. It was a very good fight, Joe started off with a nice jab and was landing some nice right hands, he was clearly shook up after that headbutt and Whyte turned it into a real dog fight. Go back turn the commentary off and watch all the illegal stuff Dillian was getting away with. As the fight progressed Whytes body shots were really hurting Joe and that left hook was the shot that put Browne to sleep for 10 minutes so credit to Joe for getting up and clearing his head.
This was a similar to the Takam fight where Joe hit a wall mentally and physically but I think rounds 11 and 12 showed that with a little better execution he would have had Whyte out of there. It also made me wonder why Joshua was so timid against Joe given the amount of Whytes leather he ate.
A much closer fight on rewatch and Joe can hold his head high. The public here wont be kind and already people are calling for him to retire...why? did Tua hang them up after getting his ears boxed off by Byrd? Did Shane give up after being destroyed by David? its boxing folks and we need to get behind the young fellow. I say take a holiday Joe, look at a new trainer/team and rebuild.
That Chisora Takam fight was monumental, nobody has had the balls to fight Takam in a phonebooth and Derek took some hellacious shots and absorbed them to knock Takam into next week, unreal
The new zealand public are currently disgracing themselves on social media calling parker a hype job and saying he's got no heart and should pack it in.
Who'd have thought it'd be ME defending him against those same fools who were the ones that put him up to unrealistic standards in the first place.
the UK boxing fans are more balanced with thier view on parker, I think the NZ fans are facebook trolls like sham waiting for parker to get hit by a car lol