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RE: Parker vs Ruiz for WBO - mippy - 11-27-2016

Top rank article

http://www.newshub.co.nz/sport/top-rank-boxing-wants-joseph-parker-on-its-books-2016112714


RE: Parker vs Ruiz for WBO - Kiwi - 11-27-2016

Could see that one coming.

Duco could easily co-promote with Arum

Good move.


RE: Parker vs Ruiz for WBO - diehard - 11-27-2016

Arum has known KB and Parker for a good while, seeing as how they are all based in Vegas. Arum and Colonel Bob frequent KB's dinner table on special occasions, so it's a friendly good fit.

People have asked how Duco could promote on the main stage. I always answered that they will co-promote. This is better, as it will give Parker (and Horn?) access to more fighters, venues and $$$ for promotions in many countries.

I hope that Izu will be included in this. Top Rank could immediately give him access to top fighters and a path to the top. I also think that Duco's contract with Parker ends at the end of this month, so the merger/co-promotion is timely.


RE: Parker vs Ruiz for WBO - NakiFan - 11-28-2016






RE: Parker vs Ruiz for WBO - diehard - 11-28-2016

Kevin Barry says Andy Ruiz has faster hands than Joseph Parker and is favourite for WBO title fight

Joseph Parker and his trainer Kevin Barry have the focus falling on them now with the WBO title fight against Andy Ruiz just around the corner.

Kevin Barry says Andy Ruiz has faster hands than Joseph Parker and deserves the favourite's tag for their WBO heavyweight title fight.

Barry's theory went far deeper than just the hotly debated topic of hand-speed for the December 10 showdown at Vector Arena.

Whether the TAB takes any notice remains to be seen – they have Parker at $1.25 to win the fight with Ruiz at $3.70.

Barry said the TAB had the odds for Parker's crucial May win over Carlos Takam "miles, miles wrong" as was proved by the eventual 12-round decision.

He suggested the fight with Ruiz could also go the distance despite both boxers having a liking and record for knockouts.

Grabbing the underdog's tag isn't unexpected. With most of the hard work done on the roads and in the gym, it's time for some mind games.

Barry argued that the 27-year-old Mexican had four more years experience than Parker, eight more fights to his name, had never been hurt, beaten or downed and "brings more pressure than anyone we have faced".

"He comes to New Zealand as the favourite to win this fight, there is no doubt in my mind," Barry said as he fronted a media conference in Auckland on Monday.

"We have always talked about Joe having fast hands, but I believe that Andy Ruiz punches faster than Joe."

With that done, Barry turned the heat up on Ruiz further.

"The pressure for this fight is on Andy Ruiz. He is the guy expected to win this fight. He has one of the top trainers in the world in Abel Sanchez who has trained 16 world champions ... there is a lot of pressure on Andy Ruiz to be Abel's 17th champ.

"Mexico has a huge tradition of producing champions, they have never had a heavyweight champion so, once again, the pressure is on Andy Ruiz."

- Stuff


RE: Parker vs Ruiz for WBO - diehard - 11-28-2016

Opinion: Duco's PPV price for the Joseph Parker fight is spot-on

By Mike Angove

Mike Angove is a former world kickboxing champion and Sky Sport NZ's expert boxing analyst.

So Duco has settled on a pay-per-view (PPV) price, and in my opinion $59.95 for an historic world boxing title fight in New Zealand is pretty damn good, all things considered.

Though public opinion has shifted in understanding the massive cost of staging an event of this scale in New Zealand, it's inevitable the usual naysayers will recycle arguments from Christmases past against the PPV pricing.

So let's take a rational look at these in the light of day.

Whine number one: "I could watch Pacquiao-Mayweather for $49.95."

We need to understand we're not really comparing apples with apples.

New Zealand is a country of 4.4 million people, and economies of scale means the cost of staging the event is dispersed over many more millions of viewing eyeballs in markets like the US, UK or China than it is in godzone.

In other words, when we want to eat cake made in New Zealand, we have to pay more for it.

The other aspect which hasn't been highlighted enough, is that boxing remains a blue-collar sport, and while white-collar New Zealand and political players are keen to enjoy the spoils of the event at the corporate table, they're far less keen to associate their brand with such a 'brutal endeavour' when it comes to sponsorship.

Consequently, in the absence of the substantial sponsorship and broadcast deals enjoyed by more acceptable sports, blue-collar punters in effect become individual sponsors via the PPV model.

Whine number two: "The undercard's a joke."

Regardless of what you may think of past cards, this card is legit - four regional title belts, including the WBO heavyweight crown, six fighters ranked inside the world top 10, two more inside the top 15, plus the next Kiwi heavyweight hope: Junior Fa'a.

On a broader note, as someone who's been openly critical in the past of the appearance of celebrities and rugby players fighting on professional boxing PPV cards in Australasia, there is a balance to consider between commercial pragmatism and boxing idealism.

In perfect world, a market with a larger population where the boxing fanbase is substantial enough to produce a profitable promotion would negate the need for celebrity or novelty bouts, but New Zealand with its small population base requires a more mainstream appeal to hit the break-even or better mark.

Whine number three: "Duco are ripping us off to make millions so they can sail off in their yachts to the Amalfi coast."

This is very much a misconception.

Over the course of developing Parker to this point, you can guarantee Duco has lost a fair bit of cash in some shows and made money in others. Parker, the product right now, is a loss-leader.

This is a long game, with the big payoff coming with lucrative future overseas bouts looking to unify the titles.

But with that comes astronomical risk: Parker loses this fight and that pot of gold falls dramatically out of reach for another 18 months to two years of rebuilding.

Remember the financial outlay for this show is a record $4.2 million.

Also consider that with the PPV model, that risk remains literally until the 11th hour. The vast majority of PPV buys are made on the day of the event, and about 80 percent of that comes in the final two hours.

It's highly likely Duco won't even know if it's taken a massive bath or made money until 24 or 48 hours after the event.

Now if you are a Duco hater you might think, "Screw them, it serves them right if they lose money." If that's the case, as Floyd Mayweather Snr said, "You don't know s**t about boxing."

That attitude would have us return to the bad old days in the back halls and pubs, where fighters fought for $100 a round and Australian promoters paid a pittance for Kiwis to fight, overmatched and on short notice.

This is where boxing in New Zealand was pre Duco's David Tua vs Shane Cameron's 'Fight of the Century'.

The landscape would be very different without Duco putting their gonads on the chopping block and backing Parker, and that is why I'm willing to part with $59.95 on December 10, and I hope they make enough money to continue to reinvest into boxing in New Zealand.

Newshub.


RE: Parker vs Ruiz for WBO - bopman - 11-28-2016

(11-28-2016, 07:10 PM)diehard Wrote: Opinion: Duco's PPV price for the Joseph Parker fight is spot-on

By Mike Angove

Mike Angove is a former world kickboxing champion and Sky Sport NZ's expert boxing analyst.

So Duco has settled on a pay-per-view (PPV) price, and in my opinion $59.95 for an historic world boxing title fight in New Zealand is pretty damn good, all things considered.

Though public opinion has shifted in understanding the massive cost of staging an event of this scale in New Zealand, it's inevitable the usual naysayers will recycle arguments from Christmases past against the PPV pricing.

So let's take a rational look at these in the light of day.

Whine number one: "I could watch Pacquiao-Mayweather for $49.95."

We need to understand we're not really comparing apples with apples.

New Zealand is a country of 4.4 million people, and economies of scale means the cost of staging the event is dispersed over many more millions of viewing eyeballs in markets like the US, UK or China than it is in godzone.

In other words, when we want to eat cake made in New Zealand, we have to pay more for it.

The other aspect which hasn't been highlighted enough, is that boxing remains a blue-collar sport, and while white-collar New Zealand and political players are keen to enjoy the spoils of the event at the corporate table, they're far less keen to associate their brand with such a 'brutal endeavour' when it comes to sponsorship.

Consequently, in the absence of the substantial sponsorship and broadcast deals enjoyed by more acceptable sports, blue-collar punters in effect become individual sponsors via the PPV model.

Whine number two: "The undercard's a joke."

Regardless of what you may think of past cards, this card is legit - four regional title belts, including the WBO heavyweight crown, six fighters ranked inside the world top 10, two more inside the top 15, plus the next Kiwi heavyweight hope: Junior Fa'a.

On a broader note, as someone who's been openly critical in the past of the appearance of celebrities and rugby players fighting on professional boxing PPV cards in Australasia, there is a balance to consider between commercial pragmatism and boxing idealism.

In perfect world, a market with a larger population where the boxing fanbase is substantial enough to produce a profitable promotion would negate the need for celebrity or novelty bouts, but New Zealand with its small population base requires a more mainstream appeal to hit the break-even or better mark.

Whine number three: "Duco are ripping us off to make millions so they can sail off in their yachts to the Amalfi coast."

This is very much a misconception.

Over the course of developing Parker to this point, you can guarantee Duco has lost a fair bit of cash in some shows and made money in others. Parker, the product right now, is a loss-leader.

This is a long game, with the big payoff coming with lucrative future overseas bouts looking to unify the titles.

But with that comes astronomical risk: Parker loses this fight and that pot of gold falls dramatically out of reach for another 18 months to two years of rebuilding.

Remember the financial outlay for this show is a record $4.2 million.

Also consider that with the PPV model, that risk remains literally until the 11th hour. The vast majority of PPV buys are made on the day of the event, and about 80 percent of that comes in the final two hours.

It's highly likely Duco won't even know if it's taken a massive bath or made money until 24 or 48 hours after the event.

Now if you are a Duco hater you might think, "Screw them, it serves them right if they lose money." If that's the case, as Floyd Mayweather Snr said, "You don't know s**t about boxing."

That attitude would have us return to the bad old days in the back halls and pubs, where fighters fought for $100 a round and Australian promoters paid a pittance for Kiwis to fight, overmatched and on short notice.

This is where boxing in New Zealand was pre Duco's David Tua vs Shane Cameron's 'Fight of the Century'.

The landscape would be very different without Duco putting their gonads on the chopping block and backing Parker, and that is why I'm willing to part with $59.95 on December 10, and I hope they make enough money to continue to reinvest into boxing in New Zealand.
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Why did duco talk about there extensive tv deals through america and Europe?  This article is bull crap apples with apples ruiz vs parker , pac vs Mayweather hahahaha he's comparing the population coverage, what a joke. The two fighters are two of the all time greats Pac and Mayweather and that was $50. 
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RE: Parker vs Ruiz for WBO - Infern0 - 11-29-2016

To be quite honest with the way this whole thing has been handled by Duco I kind of wish they had just let top rank put the fight on.

Mind you we still probably would have been charged an arm and a leg for ppv. But as it is this fight will be so easy to stream due to the coverage on free channels overseas that are very easy to stream.


RE: Parker vs Ruiz for WBO - diehard - 11-29-2016

Kevin Barry believes Andy Ruiz's weight loss won't affect his performance against Joseph Parker

Andy Ruiz is getting into the shape of his life for his world title fight with Joseph Parker.

Joseph Parker's trainer Kevin Barry has brushed off talk Andy Ruiz is risking his power game with his weight loss programme for the WBO title fight.

The notoriously chubby Ruiz is on a body transformation programme under the guidance of world class trainer Abel Sanchez in Big, Bear California.

He is dropping weight quickly and could shed more than 14kg to enter the ring at Vector Arena in Auckland on December 10 at around 111kg.

The 27-year-old Ruiz has fought effectively at up to 140kg in fashioning an unbeaten career.

Roy Jones Jnr, a world champion in four different weight classes, believes Ruiz is hindering his chances against Parker, claiming the weight loss will affect his game, particularly his ability to take a punch.

Barry, who has talked up Mexican Ruiz over the past couple of days, certainly wasn't rushing to agree with Jones. In fact, he believed this conditioning scenario was nothing new for Ruiz.

"When we say rapid weight loss, I don't know about how rapid it is," Barry argued.

"Andy Ruiz turned professional at 310 pounds (140kg). You are talking about a guy who has ben a pro for eight years. He has spent the eight years in a 29-0 career taking weight off.

"This is not the first time he has taken weight off. No-one has been able to hit him, knock him down, make him go backwards in each of those fights where he has taken the weight off. So I think that's your answer."

Ruiz has gained a reputation has having remarkable hand speed and body movement for a fighter of his size, though he has vowed to be in the best condition of his career for his shot at a world title against Parker. He says he has been invigorated by Sanchez's methods and inspired by the fit fighters training with him at the altitude camp.

Barry said he and Parker had "huge respect" for Ruiz and predicted a "very, very difficult fight".

"Neither of these guys know what it's like to lose. You've got two guys with very fast hands ... two young guys, 24 and 27, who both like to come forward. When you have two guys coming forward there's an explosion in the middle."

- Stuff


RE: Parker vs Ruiz for WBO - diehard - 11-29-2016

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/86973257/confident-joseph-parker-declares-this-is-my-time